Commander in PR

**ems_goof** · 05-16-09, 08:17 PM

Forgive me, but I have to question some stuff that was said by admins at the end of the asset thread.
11Bravo and Draco are both saying that the commander cannot designate assets. Does this also go as far as telling people to NOT use assets, as they're a waste of team points? If so, then what is the point of having a commander. This just brings a "Well, I'm going to use this helicopter, and the commander has to deal with it", which undermines the entire "Commander has the whole picture and should tell people what to do" theory. If this is the case, then why should we even bother with a commander, since nobody has to listen to him / her?

*edit - language*

**Walkerxes** · 05-16-09, 08:22 PM

I think what Bravo is saying is that there is no DEFINED rule that says the CO HAS to assign squads to assets and assets to squads.. however, If the CO says "I want squad X to use ______ asset" that squad, and team better be hopping to it.

**Talon2342** · 05-16-09, 08:33 PM

I think we should have a defined rule, so more people take the chair.

**CivilWars** · 05-16-09, 08:36 PM

The rule is the same as it always has been for the last 2 years or so. If you are the commander look at your squads, talk to your squads, and organize your squads based on the assets they have. If you see squad 1 is full of infantry don't order them to bomb something. If you see squad 2 has an attack chopper then don't order them to build a FOB. If someone is new and does not know how to do something teach them. If someone is a total douche then report them to the admins. It's not really that hard is it?

My guess is if some of you would stop swapping teams and locking squads to play with the same 5 people every round you might find that A) other people know how to play, or B) that guy isn't a total dick crashing the shopper he just needs some help learning.

And you wonder why nobody wants to play? Sheesh.

**ems_goof** · 05-16-09, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by draco7891

Commanders should issue orders to squads based on their current composition.

Originally Posted by 11Bravo

There is no defined rule that says the commander decides who gets what assets, at the point you do this then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

That's pretty cut and dry to me. Sorry Civil, but I disagree. The way Draco and 11Bravo have put it, commanders have to deal with whatever people feel like taking, overall strategy be damned.
If so, then I know I'm not going to deal with being a commander, and I'm never going to complain about people repeatedly wasting team assets any more, disobeying the commander, and setting their team up for failure just to get their jollies - because we just have to deal with it. Draco specifically states "You deal with what the squad is doing and work around it". 11Bravo specifically states "If you don't, you're part of the problem". What part of that isn't clear?
If I'm wrong in my interpretation, then I apologize. I'm just going off what the admins have posted.

**CivilWars** · 05-16-09, 08:43 PM

No, what the rule is if I am commander I look at my squads and say squad 1 has a big helo, so I wan the to deliver troops here, or drop crates there. If they refuse to follow orders they get dealt with just like anyone else. What we don't allow is me being commander and saying squad 1, I know you have the big helo, but Chosen is my buddy and he wants to fly it so squad 2 is now the helo squad. See the difference?

**bust331** · 05-16-09, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

My guess is if some of you would stop swapping teams and locking squads to play with the same 5 people every round you might find that A) other people know how to play, or B) that guy isn't a total dick crashing the shopper he just needs some help learning.

And you wonder why nobody wants to play? Sheesh.

Fucking AONO assholes.

**DancingCorpse** · 05-16-09, 08:46 PM

The best Commanders know how to use what they got, but if the Commander tells you to do something like take a flag, you sure as hell better, and if that means getting out of the helicopter, you get out of it. Vehicles have and always will be first come, first serve.

The Commander can order you what to do, but he cannot order you to take or not take a vehicle, but you do whatever it takes to do what the commander has ordered, and you can't cap a flag from flying a helicopter, so even if you are in the "named asset squad" you are going to fucking get out of the helicopters and capture that flag.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

My guess is if some of you would stop swapping teams and locking squads to play with the same 5 people every round you might find that A) other people know how to play, or B) that guy isn't a total dick crashing the shopper he just needs some help learning.

And you wonder why nobody wants to play? Sheesh.

Take that to heart, doing that really fucks over the team.

**Walkerxes** · 05-16-09, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by bust331

Originally Posted by CivilWars

My guess is if some of you would stop swapping teams and locking squads to play with the same 5 people every round you might find that A) other people know how to play, or B) that guy isn't a total dick crashing the shopper he just needs some help learning.

And you wonder why nobody wants to play?  Sheesh.

Fucking AONO assholes.

Yeah! Especially that Bust guy! .....plus he smells.

**bust331** · 05-16-09, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Walkerxes

Originally Posted by bust331

Originally Posted by CivilWars

My guess is if some of you would stop swapping teams and locking squads to play with the same 5 people every round you might find that A) other people know how to play, or B) that guy isn't a total dick crashing the shopper he just needs some help learning.

And you wonder why nobody wants to play? Sheesh.

Fucking AONO assholes.

Yeah! Especially that Bust guy!

Yeah, that dude is a real fag.