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    If you put a BH down on or near a flag it will end poorly in MOST cases. That I can promise you. There are too many high quality AT and C4 whores on the server, not to mention tanks, APCs, MGs, whatever else.


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    thats why i suggested one engineer as gunner stay in hawk, engineer can repair enough for me to pull out if i take an AT hit or FAV fire. Plus, if ground work is being done properly, wouldn't people on ground have to concentrate on the people on the ground capping flag?

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    If I am on the ground, and I have the option of shooting another soldier on the ground or a BH with 2+ people in it guess what my priority is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CivilWars
    If you put a BH down on or near a flag it will end poorly in MOST cases. That I can promise you. There are too many high quality AT and C4 whores on the server, not to mention tanks, APCs, MGs, whatever else.
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    Well, yea now that they made the guns more powerful again, a crew of at least one good gunner and a good pilot, and some wrenches can lay some smack down in mashtuur. Just ignore the title
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotega
    I agree with most of you on the fact that it is suicide to use a blackhawk squad with attack choppers on the map, that is why i suggested maps like sogua, Tampa, Mashtuur, etc. where there are no attack choppers.

    I didn't mean HALO drops. While they are effective if a SL is patient enough to do it, i beleive actually bringing the hawk in for the gunner to give air support while ground work is being done is much more effective than hovering the chopper 500m in thre air over flag.

    I realize that defense of a flag is not an option for blackhawk squads, thats why i'd mainly use them as a quick reaction squad, as they can get to neutral flags quickly for defense or cap relativly poorly defended flags quickly as well. the idea is to get in and out, not to stay. Another squad would be doing the 'defense' that some of you speak of.
    You are talking about flying at altitudes low enough to get a shot on ground troops. When you are flying that low, you now are in range of sraw, vodniks, etc. In earlier release of the game, what you were talking about absolutely worked great. I remember back to the early days of mashtuur city and the blackhawks just tearing us up.

    However, don't let us talk you out of creating a squad like that. Would be pretty cool to hear you proved us wrong. Oh, and by the way when your pilot hovers, do that very slow circling of the troops below keeping a constant angle.. matter of fact if you could name your squad Duck Squad, or Dove Squad, that would be great.

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    As long as the chopper pilot knows how to fly (and just doesn't do endless figure 8 turns) and the airthreats (mainly attack choppers) is limited, then a blackhawk squad does work wonders, especially on a big map like Tampa. That said, 6 bodies do create a lot of incentive to take it down and rack up some kills, and given the quality of many of the pilots on TTP (Xav, Tamato, etc) it does create a lot of incentive to go chopper chasing!

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    Don't agree at all with those who say you can't use the transports with attack choppers. You just need a good pilot!

    A good transport pilot can run the heli down the roads like it is a car. Hell, I run people over with them all the time, always kinda nice to see a fraged with Blackhawk on the screen. It isn't easy. If you go just a little higher you open yourself up to alot of fire from ground forces. A good pilot can use the terrain to dodge incomming fire and lock ons. At that altitude I hardly ever get hit by attacks from attack choppers. The attacks start comming when I have to pop up and hold or circle slowly to give my squadies a chance to clear the base with the mini-guns.

    Then it is nice to have some jets or air cover, but ussually you just take your chances and if you hear the lock, head for the dirt and a hill as fast as you can!

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    Bhawks rule on Shonghua!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger10
    And what attack helo team doesn't look for fully loaded blackhawks? Pssht...
    The spawn-raping type!

    All too common on Oman and Dalian have we ground-pounders watched as our attack helo does a circle-of-death over a flag while fully-loaded helos fly right over them on their way to other flags.


    Quote Originally Posted by pseud0nym
    A good transport pilot can run the heli down the roads like it is a car. Hell, I run people over with them all the time, always kinda nice to see a fraged with Blackhawk on the screen.
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