Thread: Points after death DO NOT COUNT!

From here: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/b...ter-death.html

Here's an answer to the question from the podcast Thursday night:

VOIP after death.

We found occurrences of people running into enemy areas, dying intentionally and using VOIP to notify their team of where the enemy was located. As a result we turned this off in game. It is still possible to do this using external VOIP (or even other real world communcation systems). In this game, Dead Men cant talk.

Points after death do not count:

Points after death.

We intentionally removed "the suicide bomber". Loading vehicles with C4 and driving them into packed enemy locations to gain points when you die was something we looked at for some time. The whole human controlled guided missile system could be used to great effect, especially when bringing in air vehicles, C4 and destruction. Therefore we removed the points gained by this type of "misadventure" - it includes a "look what you could have won" points tally. We realise people who die bravely fighting to the end also suffer a points loss at this point but it is difficult to separate the two in the current system.

Originally Posted by WileECyte

We found occurrences of people running into enemy areas, dying intentionally and using VOIP to notify their team of where the enemy was located. As a result we turned this off in game. It is still possible to do this using external VOIP (or even other real world communcation systems). In this game, Dead Men cant talk.

Well then how about letting LIVING people talk assholes? Fix the damn VOIP, don't break it further.

I like both

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

I like both

I don't. This means any mines I now place and then someone dies by them while I am dead I don't get the points.

You also know all those 2 men standoffs and both of you die? Now they are saying fuck you with the points if you both die because ONE of you is not going to get the points for killing the other. Oh, and Hand Grenades too. And don't forget Mortar Strikes.

It should only happen if you commit suicide. If there is a "You committed Suicide" message, then the points don't count. That cannot be that fucking hard. But no, if you die at all you lose the points. So now camping and sniping is going to be even more ravenous.


Fucking BRILLIANT EA/DICE. Just fucking DANDY. :5

Originally Posted by DancingCorpse

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

I like both

I don't. This means any mines I now place and then someone dies by them while I am dead I don't get the points.

You also know all those 2 men standoffs and both of you die? Now they are saying fuck you with the points if you both die because ONE of you is not going to get the points for killing the other. Oh, and Hand Grenades too. And don't forget Mortar Strikes.

It should only happen if you commit suicide. If there is a "You committed Suicide" message, then the points don't count. That cannot be that fucking hard. But no, if you die at all you lose the points. So now camping and sniping is going to be even more ravenous.


Fucking BRILLIANT EA/DICE. Just fucking DANDY. :5

Agreed. What a horrible fucking move. I can't count the number of times I've killed my opponent and he killed me. Sometimes our bullets kill each other at the same time. So I guess whoever gets the "official" killshot first gets the points and the other person gets fucked? WTF IS THAT SHIT?! :5

Seriously Dice/EA, you are just making your game worse off and giving people a reason NOT to play your game further.

My response to the thread:

I can understand wanting to do away with jiihaaders, but taking points away from someone when they die for legitimate reasons is bogus. You know when someone is killed by their own fire, in fact you get the "You committed suicide" message. Take away points after a suicide, but don't penalize people who toss a grenade and then get headshotted by a sniper before it detonates.

I don't really hate not being able to talk/chat while dead. It leads to fair game play, and is a boon for competitive gaming. I just want reliable VOIP so I don't have to rely on TeamSpeak or Ventrilo to coordinate with my own squad mates and a 'team chat' channel where squads can cross-talk would be awesome.

Originally Posted by 619summon

i dunno if this is tru, ive heard my points bell ring while in death screen. mostly with mines i think.

It is new and suppose to be in effect. I haven't played in a few days though so I haven't tested it yet.

Good to see a lot of people are upset about this though. Lets just hope Dice/EA makes some quick changes since this is really fucking stupid. Like some of the stuff the Dice/EA guy is talking about? People laying mines around an empty tank and he always falls for it? Sounds like a personal problem to me but a valid tactic. They should not be making "fixes" to the game when they suck at their own creation. Because honestly, right now, that is what it sounds like they are doing after reading part of that thread.

From the grave kill is a must for when the shit hits the fan and you just have to drop a "halo" nade.