Thread: Regular or Harcore

Ok, it's just with that and your tone it felt to me like you were saying we should get rid of HC I'm sorry that I jumped to that conclusion at that point I believe it was before WileE responded so I was still feeling threatened as I'm really loving TPG and the community but I'm firmly on the HC side of the fence.


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Originally Posted by CivilWars

First, at least twice when we tried a second BF2 server the failure was hardware related, and nit player-base related. Second, maybe nothing. As stated before I rarely play BC2, so I am not arguing for or against any particular settings based on MY desires. My argument is that I do know personally of probably 8-10 people that refuse to play on our server because it is hardcore. Add to that the 5 or so that play here anyway, but prefer vanilla, and you have about half a server of admins and regs. Once you have a server half full ransoms will usually top it off. Will it work every time? I don't know the answer to that any more than you do, but if it does work at least some of the time then as I said before maybe we get the next civil, bunni, wile, etc out of it.


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Ditto!

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

The reason why there's no population base is because TPG never really fully supported BC2 from the beginning.

1. We have a steady population base. 95th percentile. Our server is full almost every night. 2. In the beginning, we had 4 servers. Support up the wazoo.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

Decisions were made and the game was tossed. Word on the street of TPG was that the game was dying. In the game's exodus from TPG, Regs found and played the game at other sites.

You got that backwards. TPG Regs found and played at other sites, and our servers were dead. Our GSP fumbled the ball several times as they tried to deny the obvious problems we were having, so people went elsewhere. Certainly not because of any lack of trying on our end.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

Then mysteriously the game has retaken TPG by storm.

Nothing mysterious about it. We have some dedicated admins, a server that runs well, and a great player base here at TPG. I know how hard WileE has worked on BC2, and its success is anything but a mystery.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

Anyways, if you want to talk about lack of population, look no further than the PR server and try to tell me you won't start a second server for BC2.

And what does the PR server have to do with BC2 again? How much do you think the PR server costs us per month to keep up? Attempting to compare the two is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

The registered users on this forum have rocked the vote and they aren't "everyday people", but players who want their home to succeed at something.

Succeed at "something" ? Are you fucking serious? How can that not be taken as an insult to everyone here?

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

So the question remains, are we changing the server because people voted majority for regular mode, or are we keeping it hardcore so the admins can enjoy playing here?

Or maybe it's because the most populated servers are the ones running HC mode. When we decided to give BC2 another go, we wanted to give it the best possible chance for success. New admin tools, TS, the most successful mode (both globally, and nationally), hand-picked admins to run it, the highest quality server possible...basically everything we could do on our end to make BC2 as successful as possible. To suggest that it was simply "so the admins can enjoy playing here" is yet another insult.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

We had a vote for the modes everyone wanted, and despite the vote, hardcore mode was selected.

And HC mode has served us beautifully with its success, to the point that we are seriously discussing the possibility of another Vanilla server. To say that HC was the wrong decision has been proven to be false. Full server night after night, new registered users, new reservists, and the possibility of firing up another server sounds like success to me. You want to point at the admins and management for being selfish in our decisions......I suggest you look in the mirror first.

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

I would like to know the answer to my question as it will have a significant impact on my future w/TPG.

You of all people should how much care and time we put into the servers. I'll be damned if I am going to sit by, and allow their care and hard work be dismissed as a "mystery", or accusing the admins of being self-serving. They deserve a little more than that, and you know it.

If you are going to come in here, and make accusations of selfishness and carelessness on the part of our volunteers, don't let the door hit ya. I for one will miss you, but I also won't stand for anyone disrespecting the people that put a ton of care and time into making TPG the best they possibly can.....even if it means choosing a game mode you don't prefer.

Originally Posted by dex71

If you are going to come in here, and make accusations of selfishness and carelessness on the part of our volunteers, don't let the door hit ya. I for one will miss you, but I also won't stand for anyone disrespecting the people that put a ton of care and time into making TPG the best they possibly can.....even if it means choosing a game mode you don't prefer.

Still havent answered the question of do the admins choose based on their own preferences or do the players choose?

As far as accusations go, I didn't attack or accuse a specific individual, I merely used a large brush across the TPG canvas. Two things may occur from this, either the admin community (volunteers) stand up for each other and make a brick wall or the volunteers/admins become self reflective and weigh this matter thoroughly.

I've taken a poll from numerous admins and every volunteer/admin i've approached thru direct speech has quickly answered back, "I hate regular mode..." Now being a "popular player" on this server, I've had countless of regular (reservists) purchase BC2 and wish to play on the TPG server - but they hate/abhor the HC mode. So many of those players either join me on another server and we play to our hearts content. Phrases starting with "The admin community has been inslulted" will never win a war but merely a battle. We cannot have forums where someone questions the game mode, not the rules but a game mode, then gets a reply - youve insulted the admin community and then expect to have proper dialog.

Believe me, Im not here to run a stake thru TPG's heart and drown it of its many victories, but rather a player interested in getting more of the community involved in a specific game and grow the community. This is my opinion.

So...

Still havent answered the question of do the admins choose based on their own preferences or do the players choose?

Imisnew, telling Rico to fuck off is totally uncalled for. The guy is just expressing his opinion and you're acting like an ass b/c of it.