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    We need more people to step up to the bat and command, I have been on alot lately, and there can be a team of regulars, and none of them command. It is very hard to win against a team with a good commander, when you don't have one. Its not like you don't get points when you command, whenever I command on a winning team, I get gold, silver, or bronze medals. If you need some tips on commanding, check out Captin Nemo's sticky.
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    Iv'e commanded twice since playing BF2. Both were wins, and i did "ok". In other words i wasnt replaced and the squad leaders didnt assault me on VOIP. However, i have a lot to learn, the pointers in the sticky are a good start, but experience is everything. What are the odds of doing something like Ranger10s' University or Wildsrv's Flight school? Im sure theres more than just myself that would like to command more, but feel we need to learn some of the finer points that TTP associates expect of thier commander!

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    See, I would love to do some one-on-one tutorials while the battlefield university is going, but my schedule doesn't allow for anything on Monday nights for the next two months.

    Hopefully I could do something eventually...

    Meanwhile you should just read the sticky and see if you can get some commanding time in. That goes for everybody!

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    We almost always win when I command, but lately, I've taken time off from commanding as often as I usually do.

    It's taxing and I can't do it each round. Cause if you're doing a good job, you should be mentally tired when the round is over.

    But I'll step back up soon. Fais is right. We've got to be setting the example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capnemo314
    See, I would love to do some one-on-one tutorials while the battlefield university is going, but my schedule doesn't allow for anything on Monday nights for the next two months.
    Im open to any night you have free, for the most part. Wildsrv, myself and some others are going to try and get a flight school nailed down, most likely not on monday or wednesday. Im on almost every night, and as long as i know a couple of days in advance im sure i could be there. PM me if your up for it, or just post here. Thanks nemo

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    Perhaps I'm not the best source for info, but the key I believe is practice, practice, practice. If you haven't found your comfort zone, who cares. Most likely, you're stepping up to the plate because no else had.

    I started (or at least attempted) commanding about 1.5 months ago. I was awful at first (a big pile of crap). I never spoke to my squad leaders, spotted enemies, etc.

    I believe I have improved though over time (just a simple pile of crap). Hey, it's an improvement none the less. Now I try to talk to my squad leaders and bark orders constantly...perhaps too often

    When we're not comfortable, we just need to practice. Once you find your comfort zone everything else will simply fall into place. I say learn while in battle, you change your ways for the better when a couple squad leaders let you know where you're lacking...sometimes a little harshly. Hey we all want to win though.

    Practice , practice, practice

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    Yeah same here. Sometimes I like to be the commander even if I still have a lot to learn, like many others. I'm not sure but I think I have a veteran batch in commanding (but that says nothing about your abilities I guess). The point is, since I play on the TTP-Server I saw many good players and clans joining squads and behave like a team (unlike many other servers sadly). I already thought about playing as commander but since I do not know many of those players (many of you) I said to myself "those squads are expecting a pro commander". So I decided against it. But hey I'll sure give it a try next time and see if I get bashed from all sides.

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    Thetomdude,

    Don't worry about that. EVER one was new here once. I've only been here for a few months and I'm still getting to know people. Don't let that stop you. Also, the people that are in clans and the squad leaders are 90% Resident clans and will give you guidance or ask for help also. If you tell them your new then they will be softer on the corrections as well. Best of luck and I'll see you around!!

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    Yes, I do enjoy playing as commander, and have been working on spotting enemies ahead of advancing units, which can make dramatic differences if the commander is effective.

    And if after a time in no one has stepped up into the role, give it a whirl, and like said above tell them you are new, but someone needed to step up and do it. Most will be friendly since you are ultimately trying to help them.

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    British Police Guilty in Shooting of suspected suicide bomber.

    A British court found London's police force guilty of health and safety violations in the July 2005 incident that saw officers kill Jean Charles de Menezes in a crowded subway station, after they mistakenly identified him as a suicide bomber. The verdict has brought police conduct into question, as well as elicited calls for the resignation of Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair.

    The Times (London) reports that the jury fined the London Metropolitan Police (Met) almost £600,000 ($1.1 million) for endangering the public in the incident that led to the shooting of Mr. Menezes, an innocent Brazilian national.

    [The jury] upheld a charge against the Met of breaching its duty to protect the public under health and safety legislation after prosecutors detailed a series of 19 alleged errors in the police operation on July 22, 2005. Mr. de Menezes, 27, was shot seven times by specialist firearms officers who followed him into Stockwell Tube station in South London, mistaking him for Hussain Osman, one of four men who had tried unsuccessfully to launch a suicide attack on London's transport system the day before.

    Menezes's death was the result of a chain of errors that the police made just a day after several men attempted to detonate suicide bombs on London buses and subways, reports Reuters. The failed attack was meant to replicate the 7/11 attacks that had killed 52 people in London two weeks before.

    De Menezes lived in the same block of flats as one of the failed bombers, Hussein Osman. Surveillance officers monitoring the building followed de Menezes on two bus rides without stopping him before he reached the underground train station. Specialist firearms officers were rushed to the station â?? after a four-hour delay â?? when senior officers wrongly became convinced de Menezes was Osman. "No explanation has been forthcoming other than a breakdown in communication. It's been clear from the evidence that the surveillance team never positively identified Mr. De Menezes as a suspect," said Judge Richard Henriques.

    Time Magazine writes that the case "highlights the dilemma facing authorities across the world responsible for confronting terror while protecting the rights of innocent citizens." Time adds that the court's ruling leaves unanswered questions of cause and responsibility for Menezes's death.

    Despite the verdict, the Brazilian's family and human rights campaigners say the trial failed to answer the question of why de Menezes was killed. The Crown Prosecution Service decided there was insufficient evidence to charge individual officers with the shooting, and instead brought a case under health and safety legislation on the surreal grounds that the police had "failed to provide for the health, safety and welfare" of de Menezes and other members of the public.

    The verdict, which laid no individual blame upon police officials, has focused attention upon Metropolitan Police Commissioner Blair, reports The Independent (London). But Blair said he will not step down.

    He told reporters outside the Old Bailey following the guilty verdict: "This case thus provides no evidence at all of systematic failure by the Metropolitan Police. And I therefore intend to continue to lead the Met in its increasingly successful efforts to reduce crime and deter and disrupt terrorist activities in London and elsewhere in the United Kingdom." The police chief received the immediate backing of both Downing Street and the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, who said that Sir Ian had her "full confidence". However, she added: "We will consider carefully the implications of the verdict with the police service."

    The Times (London) reports that the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats, the two main opposition parties, both called for Blair's resignation.

    David Davis, the [Conservatives'] Shadow Home Secretary, said that the trial had shed light on "serial failures", adding: "They include failures of organisation, command and operations. The failures were systemic, falling within the clear responsibility of the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police." His Liberal Democrat counterpart, Nick Clegg, also said that the guilty verdict made Sir Ian's resignation "unavoidable". He added: "The simple priority today is to show that we have a police force in London which is prepared to accept full responsibility for its actions."

    In an editorial, The Guardian noted the difficult situation the police faced in July 2005, and sympathized with their position. But the paper acknowledged that Blair may not be able to continue to oversee the force.

    The police, hunting for four suicide bombers, were under intense pressure. They acted in what they thought were the interests of public safety. How would the public have reacted, had the operation prevented a terrorist attack? Yet the fact remains: yesterday's verdict dealt a serious blow to the Metropolitan police. ... [Blair's] decision to fight for his job may be noble in some regards, but it carries with it a mulish disregard for the opinions of others. Even those who agree with his aims for London's police, including this paper, recognise that Sir Ian may no longer be in a position to put them into effect.

    Meanwhile, an editorial in The Daily Telegraph asked, "Who's responsible for shooting de Menezes?" And suggested that the answer is Blair.

    Yesterday's trial verdict should be viewed alongside the report by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, published in August, which examined the way the Met dealt with Mr de Menezes's killing. That offered a deeply unflattering picture of the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, who was revealed as being kept out of the loop as his officers learnt the dreadful truth that an innocent man had been shot dead. Taking that into consideration with yesterday's guilty verdict, one could be forgiven for assuming the position of the man at the top to be untenable.
    I was shocked by this story...

    There are police in the UK that have guns?

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