who is going to proceed with their preorder?

**xXNF$KiLLxX** · 10-15-11, 06:11 PM

Still a drink goes good with food haha.

**jakt** · 10-15-11, 06:13 PM

aye

**ATEXANnHISGUN** · 10-16-11, 02:14 AM

well I am going to go ahead and keep my pre-order.

It is not the EA/DICE deserve my money they don't and it is not that I condone no voice over IP I don't

But after speaking with my brother he has me convinced that the single player and coop modes alone justify the price and if in the end the multiplayer never get voip? well he was quick to point out that neither did BC2 but I still played till I got every unlock for each class in the game.

So as much as I hate EA's seeming desire to ram it's junk up my kiester I am going to bite the pillow and keep and play the game.

**Balkovec** · 10-16-11, 08:55 AM

I found this interesting podcast with Daskro from 20ID. Been playing with and against him for about 6 years in bf games. He is actually the only friend that still uses xfire on a daily basis. I cant wait to get back into things and meet new players from all different walks of life. From their comments this game is gonna be incredible. Multiple times I have heard that the game now is soo much better than what we got to experience in the open beta. So I guess it was very true that the game they have for launch is more advanced and taken care of than what we all experienced.

So with that being said I was thinking that with all of the vehicles that are going to be there in most of the maps the class to play will prolly be Engineer to start off. Land mines and rockets will be overpowered. So my recommendation would be level that first and lets get rocking. Just watch/listen to that podcast and you will feel much much better about this game !!!

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**deathgodusmc** · 10-16-11, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by jakt

I'm starting to feel I'm not fit for this community. I enjoy playing video games and would like to be a part of a community that shares this feeling. 24/7 BITCHING, COMPLAINING, POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS, AND PLAIN ASS FUCK FACE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT GAMES YOU DON'T EVEN PLAN ON PLAYING, is not what I joined for.

I joined to talk about the games I enjoy and to find people that share the same enthusiasm in that game.

IF I don't like a game, I DON'T PLAY IT and I SURE AS FUCK don't waist anyone's time talking about it.

Really? If thats how you feel maybe its time for you to go? This is a gaming community where we discuss those games and lets be honest the conversations for the good parts are always going to be a much shorter conversation. Which leaves everyone talking about the fail aspect of the game.

Personally i feel the ea/dice has missed a prime opportunity. BF2 is still the best in the series. Its not hard to figure out thats because the setup. They were told what people wanted and people to this day still buy BF2. So if your going to make a game and call it BF3 it should at least match the game its being the sequel for.

Then you have to take into account the track record for them fixing their own games. Hasn't been a very good track record imo. So they took what could have been a bad ass game and watered it down to a BC3 or 4 which ever they are on in that series.

Not that i know how ea or dice operates but these negative comments could be what they use to determine what people want and what needs to be fixed. I have no idea if ea even reads shit from other forums but i would have to assume the more you post about something the more likely they are to read it.

However i do understand how it can get annoying reading the same thing over and over. At that point you have to remind yourself that just because you've had that conversation doesn't mean everyone else has and that this is still a gaming forum. So these conversations will go on as long as there are games to talk about. So at this point im tossed up on whether i will buy the game to have sitting on a shelf collecting dust like BC2.

**Balkovec** · 10-16-11, 01:37 PM

Ouch ... The conversaitions/arguements that go on here in my mind are ok, Even though there are a lot of haters foir certain aspects of the game. It is still thier POV. I take everything into consideration and it makes me think as well about what other have to say.

**bobbarkerissatan** · 10-16-11, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thorsen

This makes me glad I didn't pre-order. I've lost MORE than enough faith in EA/DICE to not trust them with my money. It looks like caution has paid off again.

What honestly irks me more than the lack of Voip though is the fact that so many seem so eager to just blow it off like it's no big deal. Some even seem to be going so far as to say that we shouldn't be angry about it, that we're overreacting.

As far as I'm concerned, however, we can't possibly react ENOUGH. This situation is simply one more nail in the coffin of old-school PC-gaming. PCGamers are being marginalized more and more in the video game industry. PC game sales make up only a tiny fragment of the video game industry sales each year and it continues to diminish.

But the more I read about this shit the more I feel like we deserve to be marginalized. What message are we sending to developers? "Give us what we want... or we'll give you our money and play your game anyway!!" What incentive does that give to developers of tomorrow's games to cater more to us? They'll just look back and say "Don't worry about that feature, they'll buy it anyway." And as far as I can tell they'll be right.

We have power as consumers to at least provide some leverage for change. PCGamers are a small minority in terms of sales overall, but the Battlefield franchise has a strong relationship with the PC. Our money will speak much louder than any email or letter or forum rant ever could.

Unfortunately I don't expect that much out of PCGamers. I expect most of us to fork over $60 for the opportunity to play the same Call of Duty clone for the seventh time, then complain when the next game is no different.

Don't expect change if you are willing to accept stagnancy.

Bold part times a million. So many gamers bitch and complain and then bend over and take it anyways. Man up already and buy the game on discount down the road if you are disappointed with the release.

**Bunni** · 10-17-11, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Why don't we just make our own Team player shooter. With Command structure, comma rose, Voip, 6 man squads......

WAY ahead of you. Got a team brewing, including a very talented professional game designer (EA' does not have any of these), hes got the game doc pretty much done (its stupid long, gives the yellow pages a run for their money). I've got a lot of the engine systems done, but we are working on getting funding for a cryengine licenses, which for those of you who know, will take a while, we'll likely have to make a game just to get the funding's, then well make the jaw dropper.

And trust me, even though its cliche for a game developer to say their game will be the shit, trust me, it will be the shit.

Originally Posted by moving-target

bunni is smart but not that smart

you don't even know me

**Alundil** · 10-17-11, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Bunni

WAY ahead of you. Got a team brewing, including a very talented professional game designer (EA' does not have any of these), hes got the game doc pretty much done (its stupid long, gives the yellow pages a run for their money). I've got a lot of the engine systems done, but we are working on getting funding for a cryengine licenses, which for those of you who know, will take a while, we'll likely have to make a game just to get the funding's, then well make the jaw dropper.

And trust me, even though its cliche for a game developer to say their game will be the shit, trust me, it will be the shit.

you don't even know me

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

**triggerhappy2005** · 10-17-11, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bunni

WAY ahead of you. Got a team brewing, including a very talented professional game designer (EA' does not have any of these), hes got the game doc pretty much done (its stupid long, gives the yellow pages a run for their money). I've got a lot of the engine systems done, but we are working on getting funding for a cryengine licenses, which for those of you who know, will take a while, we'll likely have to make a game just to get the funding's, then well make the jaw dropper.

And trust me, even though its cliche for a game developer to say their game will be the shit, trust me, it will be the shit.

Bunni for fucking President.

Btw, how much does a Crytek engine license go for?