BF3 and VOIP...

*Rob · 12-06-11, 08:53 PM

must be the money

**ATEXANnHISGUN** · 12-06-11, 08:55 PM

With out squad voip and then a way for at least the squad leaders to communicate so the whole team is organized, it will never feel like TPG battlefield.

TS helps but it is insufficient, like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.

**Guyver** · 12-06-11, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by ATEXANnHISGUN

With out squad voip and then a way for at least the squad leaders to communicate so the whole team is organized, it will never feel like TPG battlefield.

TS helps but it is insufficient, like putting a band aid on a bullet wound.

True, but I'm betting TPG BF3 will still be leaps and bounds better than the majority of other servers out there. Which is why I'm still getting the game.

**DoomyDoomyDoom** · 12-06-11, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chapel

wow, you guys must be on some good servers... all I ever hear is faggot and the N-word over and over on Xbox.

wow! Some things never change. I quit xbox live back in ~2005 and I do recall this being the usual experience with people I don't know. I remember just muting the voice chat whenever possible and pretending it didn't exist because of people like that.

wtf is wrong with people

**Alundil** · 12-06-11, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Chapel

wow, you guys must be on some good servers... all I ever hear is faggot and the N-word over and over on Xbox.

Those types don't last long here.

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

**CivilWars** · 12-06-11, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Alundil

Those types don't last long here.

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

If more places were like HERE, then we likely wouldn't be having any of these conversations.

**RhysJD3** · 12-06-11, 11:06 PM

Well, as PC users, we all have the advantage of using technology like TS to fill in the gaps. While overall this isn't the best solution, I think it's part of what makes TPG unique. If it was built in, there'd be fewer things to distinguish what this community and their servers offer. Plus I think teamspeak probably does it better than what's they'd be able to build in the game anyway.

Also, if it was built into the game, I'd imagine we'd have more clueless players on that don't know how to move forward as a squad...

On a side note, I'd like to thank the squads I've been in for putting up with my lack of mic during most of my gameplay. My wife works at home during the evenings in our office where we have our computers and internet. So unfortunately, I can't always be on mic. However, I'm almost always on TS and listening. She wants to know what I want for Christmas. I'd like my own office but our house is too small for that

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**[CoFR]SirMoo** · 12-07-11, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by WileECyte

Not to say I told you so... but...

Daniel Matros: "@Dem0nAir We´re keeping th…" « Deck.ly

Translation... they're too fucking LAZY to bother.

There are actual legit business concerns that deal with this. I've done proprietary-licensed 3rd party integration and bundling before, and we got sued over it nevertheless (not my fault though!). Remember on the consoles, EA gets to access the PSN and XBL voip APIs as part of developing for those platforms, but they don't necessarily need access to source or deployment or codecs or anything from Sony/MS. They also have reduced support requirements. They might not have been able to get a license to use the voip stack from BF2/2142 (I don't remember who they licensed codec, servercode, and codecs from, but I know it was licensed from another company and they didn't write it) and apply it to BF3. Obviously the BC2 voip doesn't work well on PC so they just didn't include it. You might say "they are too lazy to fix the VOIP in BC2 and stick it in BF3" but again, if it's going to take more than 1 FTE to work on it and solve all the "help my voip doesn't work" help requests, it probably just isn't worth the cost both from a development or a support budget perspective. (Remember Don’t Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice | Kalzumeus Software put it best: extra programmers and tech support staff add overhead and count as a cost center to the beancounters!)

**Chapel** · 12-07-11, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

While I may not have 100% reliable and verifiable data to back up what I am about to say I will preface it by saying I have the game for PS3, and my kids play it often. I rarely, if ever, see any type of teamwork or communication on the team when they are playing.

Originally Posted by Guyver

Therein lies your problem.

We're talking about the fact that they're making it a "high priority" fix on consoles, when VOIP doesn't even exist on the PC.

This is why I only play XBL games with my friends... and NEVER FPS games.

Originally Posted by DoomyDoomyDoom

wow! Some things never change. I quit xbox live back in ~2005 and I do recall this being the usual experience with people I don't know. I remember just muting the voice chat whenever possible and pretending it didn't exist because of people like that.

wtf is wrong with people

kids are retarded these days.

Originally Posted by Alundil

Those types don't last long here.

Those types don't normally play PC games because they are 'gay'