Gunman +TCF+ Retired until 2010

**SilverTheHedgehog** · 12-09-08, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Kaizoku

I only did testing in VS, because that's the only mode relevant to my concerns for balancing and effectiveness of weapons. If I was going to test campaign, I'd test advanced, because normal is quite frankly easymode in campaign. Also, I did my testing in a controlled environment, if you can't control the AI in campaign mode and monitor it's hp without the end game damage calculation (I don't know how accurate that is, how it works, what it takes into consideration, or anything) then I'd be more apt to say there may be more variables affecting your results. However, I will accept that it's possible that the hitbox is turned off in versus, I just can't see a headshot only doing an extra 1-10 damage considering on normal infected headshots can do around x3 damage.

how can you tell how much X damage a headshot does when it always kills them in one?

**p1nk** · 12-09-08, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by liq3

4x. No way you can headshot the witch in one hit of it's only 3x.

Interestingly enough. It's been said elsewhere that the witch also has no damage modifiers for headshots. Anyone have much experience with this?

**Iroquois Pliskin** · 12-09-08, 08:24 PM

...If that were the case, then Crownd would be impossible.

**ccog** · 12-10-08, 03:51 PM

For the record this was a Molotov free guide, since you always know where the weapons spawn on each level, but not necisarily the molotovs. (I've gone through two levels without seeing any molotovs.)
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Not necesarily a molotov free guide, this guide is just assuming that you don't have any molotovs at your disposal. Also I added more to the guide.

**imported_Pure** · 12-10-08, 04:14 PM

What i always do is set him alight, mola or a gas can, then keep running and shooting for 40 seconds! seems to work lol

I got the man vs tank achievement on expert last night, i was really please with myself LOL

**Fourth Survivor** · 12-10-08, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Kaizoku

I only did testing in VS, because that's the only mode relevant to my concerns for balancing and effectiveness of weapons.

With that being said, I'd find your original statement's basis here decently inconsequential. Only due to the fact that the guide seems like it was obviously made for killing Tanks in Co-Op or single player. You can't necessarily make a guide to kill a human Tank.

**Kaizoku** · 12-10-08, 08:27 PM

I don't see your point here. Clarify what you're trying to say.

**Salesman** · 12-10-08, 09:16 PM

If you are playing easy just shotgun it to death and maybe on normal too but anything harder just molotov and run like hell.
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Originally Posted by Kaizoku

I don't see your point here. Clarify what you're trying to say.

He means when you are up against a human tank (one who is controlled by a person not AI) then a guide is almost useless to some extent because the player is smart and knows what you are going to do and will try and counter it on the spot.

AI is predictable however and it is very easy to plan an attack on one.

**liq3** · 12-10-08, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Salesman

He means when you are up against a human tank (one who is controlled by a person not AI) then a guide is almost useless to some extent because the player is smart and knows what you are going to do and will try and counter it on the spot.

Strange, because the people(human tanks) I play with/against usually run head first into autoshotguns, chasing someone they can't possibly catch.