Thread: What is a "team player"?

I don't know how to keep this short. I would like to point out all of the little things that people do to basicaly stay alive but that would be gay. I would like to post player names of those that I see as baiters, those that never lead a rush and those that wait out the bomb time to kill T's instead of defusing, but that would be gay. So I will only say this:

Fuck your stats.

Don't be a bitch.

Lead the rush.

Defuse the bomb.

Play your spawn position.

Look at radar.

Originally Posted by VinDeagle

Fuck your stats.

Don't be a bitch.

Lead the rush.

Defuse the bomb.

Play your spawn position.

Look at radar.

I agree there are too many people who consistently bait or take wide routes as to avoid being first in the rush, we all know who they are..

Originally Posted by VinDeagle

I don't know how to keep this short. I would like to point out all of the little things that people do to basicaly stay alive but that would be gay. I would like to post player names of those that I see as baiters, those that never lead a rush and those that wait out the bomb time to kill T's instead of defusing, but that would be gay. So I will only say this:

Fuck your stats.

Don't be a bitch.

Lead the rush.

Defuse the bomb.

Play your spawn position.

Look at radar.

Who cares if naming names would be gay. Make a wall of shame. It will give people notice that everyone else notices them being a douche, and might help them change their ways.

Originally Posted by VinDeagle

Don't be a bitch

This....is all you need to know to be a team player. Don't be a bitch and sell out your team, don't be a bitch and avoid the rush because your scared to die, it's not real life, your going to re spawn in a few minutes. Don't be a bitch and camp the easy site when there's already 5 cts there. Don't be a bitch and rage quite when your losing, yea "don't be a bitch" is pretty much the only rule you must abide by to be a good teamplayer.

Originally Posted by RAWRKITTY

Who cares if naming names would be gay. Make a wall of shame. It will give people notice that everyone else notices them being a douche, and might help them change their ways.

I record demos every time I play, I should start making weekly highlight reels of all the people selling out.

Originally Posted by MaFioSo

I record demos every time I play, I should start making weekly highlight reels of all the people selling out.

Let the good flix roll,baby!

Hitch

Originally Posted by VinDeagle

I don't know how to keep this short. I would like to point out all of the little things that people do to basicaly stay alive but that would be gay. I would like to post player names of those that I see as baiters, those that never lead a rush and those that wait out the bomb time to kill T's instead of defusing, but that would be gay. So I will only say this:

Fuck your stats.

Don't be a bitch.

Lead the rush.

Defuse the bomb.

Play your spawn position.

Look at radar.

I've thought about this question quite a bit, and I think it's definitely worth discussion. I don't think you can simply list out six points and describe what a "team player is." It looks more like an opinion what you think a team player does, and I don't think it's so simple.

I would like to point out all of the little things that people do to basicaly stay alive but that would be gay.

I think you should name at least a few of the "little things" that bother you that "people do to stay alive..." So I guess it has already been agreed that the first 10/11 players dead are far better team players than the last. Taking the same logic, the first 3 players to die are the best team players. Team play is not simply about who dies first, let's get that straight. Do I think it is okay to dip out of the front of a rush to go cover the back somewhere? No. Do I think the last guy rushing B on dust2 shouldt peel off and go lower? Yes. That is team play in action. The rest of his team might all die rushing into the site, and he might kill 5 flankers lower, but the fact he was lower probably had little impact on the rush in site -- and in fact was an addition to team play.

If I'm towards the back and see this as an option I usually vocalize and ask the caller, but I just think it is a good example of why a "he who dies first dies with most honor" train of thought is, in fact, not a crucial element of team play. Good communication, following the call, and paying attention to radar (like you said Vin) are.

I would like to post player names of those that I see as baiters, those that never lead a rush and those that wait out the bomb time to kill T's instead of defusing, but that would be gay.

If you didn't plan to do so, why create this thread? There appears to be an issue, so go ahead and spit it out instead of some passive aggressive laundry list of rules. I'm sorry, but how can we turn this constructive and work on a specific issue... or is it just a rant to pick-up pitchforks? Just trying to understand, because I see the perspective is quite popular on the server.

If I see the first person peel off no sweat off my back.

Defuse the bomb.

Don't understand this one. Sometimes I sit in site and let others defuse to cover the bomb because there are still T's up. Sometimes I just let other people defuse because I don't care too much about the points.

Play your spawn position. Look at radar.

Agreed. Hard to enforce though. You can't just change people and make them smarter, they have to learn. I like the idea of trying to improve team play, because I do see the baiting. A lot of it is just perspective in my opinion, and not everyone can think the way you do or want them to. Especially on a pub.

Hope the rant felt good Much love

A team player is someone that best helps his/her team

The problem is people have different expectations of help

Someone who lays everything on the line for the player next to him and is wlling to die for the win..

Small things would be:

People spawned for a rush not taking it or bailing out from first

Last CT alive going for picks instead of bomb when its planted

Ts sitting back on the last half of the push into site - I know this can be helpful at times, just have to watch how many people are doing it and how many CTs are approaching (Watch radar on lost temple and you'll see what I mean)

When those that were supposed to fake a site/rush don't or only go half way for picks and then turn back

The same person on T alive at the end of the rounds or last to die - this one can be tricky, but often its the people that don't lead on a rush or get into site until they really have to

People not paying attention to the scoreboard on warm-up round - helps when one side is stacked; people have to be willing to switch unless they're in spec



There are other small things but I don't remember all of them. I won't post any names up and I don't think anyone else should because then it turns into an uncontrolable argument and thats not the point of this.

I don't think a team player can be so easily defined. Scotzos description is the best way to put it but it is pretty complex when you break it down.

This is a short summary of how I play the game from the minute I join the server until the game is over:

1 - Check scoreboard to see who is on what team. I'm not the best player but I like to help out.
2 - Look at my spawns every round. Unless I'm told otherwise I go for where I spawn.
3 - Only use the mic when I need to say something that is relative to the round.
4 - If I'm on T and we slow play or if I'm on CT I keep an eye on radar to see how many people are in what site/side of the map. When numbers thin out and I'm alive I rotate over.
5 - Stay in site until I see bomb/check all corners of site until I know its clear.
6 - Keep an eye on radar and scoreboard periodicaly during rounds

^ Some of this is very situation based, it doesn't always work all of the time.

I tend to have a very high standard in what I think a team player is. I don't expectate but I expect a lot of common sense in what it means to help your team. I wouldn't define myself as the best team player but I do what I can to help and its those that don't help and play more self centered that really hit that nerve.