What is baiting? (Read my post fully before commenting please.)

**deathgodusmc** · 07-14-12, 09:59 PM

Yeah i dont care what game it is. If you flash banged me and expect me to take the hit your out of your fucking mind. Its more pussy to be in the back slinging grenades then it is to be in the front ducking for cover because you cant see. Take your own damn bullet i catch enough all on my own.

**judedeath** · 07-14-12, 10:08 PM

This is my opinion if you are a rush spawn(you know who you are) buy a P90 and spray the usual spots(d2 b behind the car, season b? Around the corner upper, etc.) learn to blind spam the usual spots on maps, you should all know the spots on season/d2 if you step out of the way on a rush for whatever reason before you're in the site unless theres a delay you are a pussy, youre blind hey that's a chance for the later people in the rush to take them out when they're reloading.

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**iLLusioN** · 07-14-12, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by Option hunter

Well this thread was constructive for me. From now on I'm pulling a Leeroy Jenkins into the site when I'm flashed instead of stepping aside.

Yay for learning.

There are places to step aside and there are places to push through. Any time you have a straight rush called you run through no matter what. Always. As others have said, you make yourself the bait to give your teammates a better chance at taking the site.

Ya know, Teamplay. I think we've heard of that around here.

However, on something like an A split on D2, you are probably better off hiding in pit or the cat cubby, than just running out. Those places are more nade choke points than they are gun choke points. Doesn't really matter if you are blind or not if a nade is coming that way, there isn't much to do about it.

IMO, unless you communicate otherwise so that your team is aware if you wait for the other team to reach a certain point before peaking and you have teammates that you COULD cover/help out were you to peak, then you are baiting. Period end of story. The only time that this doesn't apply IMO is when that person is putting themselves into danger without communicating. You'll see this a ton T side after the bomb goes down. People will wander around the map looking for a kill instead of playing it smart and holding the one place the CT has to go...the bombsite you are already at.

**Adretheon** · 07-14-12, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Yeah i dont care what game it is. If you flash banged me and expect me to take the hit your out of your fucking mind. Its more pussy to be in the back slinging grenades then it is to be in the front ducking for cover because you cant see. Take your own damn bullet i catch enough all on my own.

I don't expect you to take my hits, I expect you not to pussy out and fuck up the rush by trying to save your own ass. If I expected you to take my bullets then I'd be a cunt. But if the call is rush B and your always moving forward, then you're doing it wrong.

**judedeath** · 07-14-12, 10:21 PM

Dre dg was agreeing with you he was saying if you get flashed you keep running in dont expect him behind you to take the shots for you who's first and flashed but pussyied out.

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**deathgodusmc** · 07-14-12, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Adretheon

I don't expect you to take my hits, I expect you not to pussy out and fuck up the rush by trying to save your own ass. If I expected you to take my bullets then I'd be a cunt. But if the call is rush B and your always moving forward, then you're doing it wrong.

Then you should have had no issue getting to the front of the pack to begin with instead of letting someone else lead the way. People in the back shouldn't be the ones lobbing grenades blindly to begin with. That was one thing that always irritated me with bf2. Well every game with them has always been irritating because its always the same.

Its definitely an opinion thing but mine is no i would rather not take someone elses bullet because they blinded me when they lobbed a flash bang while hiding behind me. You can catch your own bullet at that point.

**Guyver** · 07-14-12, 10:24 PM

This isn't BF2 though, this is CS. If the people in the back aren't tossing nades (at least HE's) ...you're fucked.

EDIT:
...and people can throw flashes behind you, as long as they let people know beforehand.

**judedeath** · 07-14-12, 10:27 PM

Ok dg you don't have any idea what your talking about, we aren't talking about teamflashing we're talking about the other team flashing the person, and people lead the rush because of where they spawn it isn't usually something where you sit around for 5 second debating who goes first it's a you spawn and run directly there from as soon as you can move and if you spawned closest you're leading the rush.

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**Adretheon** · 07-14-12, 10:28 PM

Well first off, most flashes aren't team flashes in the kinds of rushes he's talking about. And if there are then there's bigger problems. Secondly, the stance is the same, you moving away from the rush could potentially fuck the rest of your team up. All it takes is for you to misjudge where you are by one step to block one guy who moves around you blocking another guy, who blocks the guy behind him etc. For the teams sake you're better off just moving forward. But that's a css thing, something you know not about.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-14-12, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by judedeath

Ok dg you don't have any idea what your talking about, we aren't talking about teamflashing we're talking about the other team flashing the person, and people lead the rush because of where they spawn it isn't usually something where you sit around for 5 second debating who goes first it's a you spawn and run directly there from as soon as you can move and if you spawned closest you're leading the rush.

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From the op.

" A player is rushing with his/her team and is leading the rush when they get spammed with enemy/friendly flash grenades."

My original response was to the op.