Just wanted to clarify

**Guyver** · 04-25-09, 04:10 AM

Walker, I'm going by his very own statements in his own unban request:

believe what you want. There are shadows in smoke. Just because its thick doesn't mean at one point you don't see someone entering the smoke, and you can shoot where they are running.
I really don't care, i'm not here to debate. if you think i hack then ban me. Cause I know I don'

If that's not a crap attitude, I don't know what is.

**Vincent** · 04-25-09, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by eXpress

Well I just want to clarify something here...Vincent...I had a couple issues with your post, one with your constant referring to TTP as they, if you want to become a part of TTP then I'm all for it, however it may seem like something insignificant to you but why not say "we have rules here at TTP." It sounds better and it looks as though you want to become a part of the community.

First off I said they twice, that is not constant referring. Also, this is the same situation; is you assume negative intentions from my text automatically and you know it. I do not consider myself a part of TTP as I AM banned, and I would never want to be in a clan and then have some random guy thats banned go "yaa were awesome". It is something insignificat to me, because it is not that big a deal, I simply referred to TTP in third person, is that a crime? Did I come off insulting to TTP by referring to you guys in third person?

Originally Posted by eXpress

Secondly was that you kept bringing up examples of scrimming and CAL which have no relevance in the TTP servers that was it, the playstyle there is completely different than on our servers, many can attest to that.

I brought up my CAL & Scrimming EXP, to try and persuade the guy, who was at false conception that TTP would bend to his will, that he should drop it. It's not like I said "raaa im in cal i own all people in TTP" OR ANYTHING referring to TTP and my CAL exp. IT had NO connection. You just have this negative outlook on CAL and Scrim exp b/c apparently everyone brings it up in their defense, and automatically sniped at me for mentioning it. Its like taboo. I really don't see how that is offending you.

Originally Posted by eXpress

Walker, please don't assume that I was making assumptions, I know what I meant when I wrote it, but to turn it into something else is not helpful either. Maybe you missed the whole point of what I was trying to say or maybe the whole point of the whole topic but I wasn't being negative. I did read what he wrote and am more than intelligent enough to understand what was said.

I only posted this topic because I thought you were confused on what I wrote, seeing as how your interpreting my post in a over-all negative sense. I mean you said "Don't bring up CAL no one cares" "Why you referring to TTP as they? wth" "This isn't helping with your ban" Thats pretty negative to me.

Originally Posted by Guyver

Walker, I'm going by his very own statements in his own unban request:

believe what you want. There are shadows in smoke. Just because its thick doesn't mean at one point you don't see someone entering the smoke, and you can shoot where they are running.
I really don't care, i'm not here to debate. if you think i hack then ban me. Cause I know I don'

If that's not a crap attitude, I don't know what is.

Way to bring up something that happened a long time ago. I Apologized for having an attitude with the admin and you don't help at all by bringing it up like I did something. How does that have ANY relevance to this topic what-so-ever. Again, I apologized for my actions in the past and for you to throw them in my face randomly because I'm trying to come to an understanding with Express is by far rediculous.

Apology Thread of me atoning to my mistakes:
http://www.texasteamplayers.com/index.php?topic=60242.0

Overall: I'm sorry if I should be considering myself one of TTP by saying things like "we", but there is a certain acceptance boundary that I have not crossed yet, and for me to jump in and say "ya we bla bla bla" is rude if you ask me.

**fly351** · 04-25-09, 10:33 AM

You ban is not up for debate. You were banned, its over, wait 30 and come back and request an appeal.

**Vincent** · 04-25-09, 11:14 AM

This has nothing to do with my ban.

**THATriggerHappy** · 04-25-09, 12:07 PM

now this is turning into a childish argument just drop it guys. start clean shit!

**Sora** · 04-25-09, 12:10 PM

Im not sure what the big issue here is. I read this whole thread and i dont see any bad attitude coming from him. If anything i see the opposite?
How many threads do we have up debating situations on the server ect.
He isnt here complaining about his ban so why do you guys keep telling him to sit the 30 days? He has a right to be on the site its not like hes causing major issues here.

And to be honost express, if i was banned from the server, Id be scared to say.  "We have rules around here"
Because with all the people attacking this thread for no reason I would assume you guys didnt want me to even come back to the server.
Lighten up its just his opinion. He hasnt had enough time to become part of this community. And I Have refered to TTP as "They" before its not an insult.

When i read this post i saw nothing about him giving us that "Im CAL so im better then all of you" attitude. I saw him stating his opinion BUT also backing up our rules by telling that guy we have strict rules so trying to make his "Cal mentality post" about how we were all idiots. Was futile.

I see nothing wrong with what he has done but its pretty sad to see some regulars attack this post for something i see no problem with. And to be honost i think this should be locked before it causes any more issues.

All i really see is someone trying to become part of our community and it looks like you guys are trying to drive him away. Not to team playerish imho. Im glad he's here making a presence on the forums. And i hope after us banning him and now what seems to be us trying to drive him away. That he doesnt decide he doesnt want to play here.

**Walkerxes** · 04-25-09, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by fly351

You ban is not up for debate.  You were banned, its over, wait 30 and come back and request an appeal.

Where do you see any dispute over the ban results? Where is it in our rules where he needs to shut up and sit down and be quiet for 30 days?  Is it not better for him to attempt to become a part of the community? Perhaps show he's willing to go the mile BEFORE he makes an appeal?

Express.. I can understand why he would say "they"; new people do it constantly "Hi, I'm new to 'your servers', 'your community'" you don't really see new people saying "Hi, I'm new to 'our' servers, 'our' community".. and even more so for a person who's first forray here is the banned forums. He got off on the wrong foot, obviously, so it makes sense that he doesn't feel he's earned the right to say "We" and "Our".  You are correct, however, that it was wrong of me to assume that you assumed.. wait.. where was I going with this?

  You're right, however, my assumption was that your immediately assumed he must be posting negative because he was simply posting. But frankly, you're not the only one that's comming off that way. Now, going back and reading through what you said, I can see where you were trying to go with it.

Guyver, because he got exasperated in his unban thread and dropped what seemed like some attitude, doesn't mean everything he says has attitude. And again, I've yet to see any disputing of his ban, so the "Just wait your 30 days" don't make much sense.

Now you might wonder why I am sticking up for a "banned POS".. to that I say.. how many here started that way? Many. But they saw the value and did what they could to make amends, and hung around. So my point is.. don't be so stand-offish and immediately dismissive.