Thread: BF2 VS CSS

oh yea i'm so down for this

Originally Posted by Potemkine

And for the record, BF2 players have VASTLY superior commands of the English language than you erroneous pieces of asinine tomfoolery. :4

lol

Sigh...we've done this before, and the results aren't pretty for either side. BF2ers get rickrolled in CSS, and CSSers get rickrolled in BF2(even in infrantry only). It's pointless to compare the two in any way.

Just take your pride and go about your business...nothing to see here.

Originally Posted by GReYVee

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Your peers fail you Potemkine. (btw did you stutter when typing your fucking handle or something?)

This is all in Jest.. I just dont know wtf you name means, Sounds like some hentai furry pussy star to me



hobbes: make your case.

*Clears throat*

A little history lesson so that you CSS'ers can learn something I kid You guys are great too not as good as BF2 of course but still great!

The Russian Battleship

Originally Posted by <a href="[url

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Potemkin">What[/url] the meaning of Potemkine is...Part 1</a>]
The Potemkin (Russian: ?? ?? ??, Knyaz’ Potyomkin Tavricheski, ‘Prince Potyomkin of Tauris’) was a pre-dreadnought battleship (Bronenosets) of the Imperial Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet. The ship was made famous by the Battleship Potemkin uprising, a rebellion of the crew against their oppressive officers in June 1905 (during the Russian Revolution of 1905). It later came to be viewed as an initial step towards the Russian Revolution of 1917, and was the basis of Sergei Eisenstein's silent film The Battleship Potemkin.

Following the mutiny in 1905, the ship's name was changed to Panteleimon after Saint Pantaleon, but restored to Potemkin in 1917, before a final rename to Boretz za Svobodu later in that year.

The ship was laid down at the Nikolayev shipyard in October 1898, launched in October 1900, and commissioned in 1904. She was named in honour of Grigori Aleksandrovich Potemkin, a military figure of the 18th century. The vessel was built based on the prototype of the Russian battleship Tri Sviatitelia and a modernized version of Peresviet-class battleships (see Oslyabya). The armour scheme was designed after HMS Majestic.

Several innovations were incorporated in the design. This was the first Russian Russian battleship with liquid fuelled boilers (although these were replaced by coal fired boilers after a fire during trials) and centralised fire control.

In 1905, The Central Committee of the Social Democratic Organization of the Black Sea Fleet started preparations for a simultaneous crew uprising on all of the ships of the fleet some time in the autumn of 1905. However, at the time of planning Potemkin was away for firing exercises at Tendra Island, and the rebellion broke out on its own on 27 June [O.S. 14 June] 1905, spontaneously and prematurely.

The uprising was sparked by Ippolit Giliarovsky, the second in command of the battleship, who allegedly threatened reprisals against a number of the crew for their refusal to eat meat found to contain maggots when it was delivered to the warship. Reportedly he mustered the crew on the quarterdeck near where a tarpaulin was laid out and armed marines were drawn up. The sailors assumed that a group execution was pending and rushed the marines (themselves sailors), calling on them not to shoot. The actual events sparking the mutiny remain uncertain and have been overshadowed by the version depicted in the famous Sergei Eisenstein film The Battleship Potemkin. It's known that discipline in the Imperial Navy was harsh; morale dropped lower following the disastrous news from the recent Battle of Tsushima on 27 May 1905. Prior to this a group of sailors dedicated to revolution had formed. The group, called Tsentralka, plotted in secret a massed mutiny of the Black Sea Fleet that would support revolutionary groups on land. The mutineers killed seven of the Potemkin's eighteen officers, including Captain Evgeny Golikov and Giliarovsky. The surviving officers were placed under arrest, as were those of an accompanying torpedo-boat, the N267. One sailor, Grigory Vakulinchuk, was fatally wounded during the fight. The seamen organized a Ship's Commission led by Afanasi Matushenko.

The ship contained an English officer named Ethan Miller who was later exiled during the revolution of 1917.

In the evening of that same day, the rebellious battleship came to Odessa flying a red flag. A general strike had been called in Odessa and there was some unrest, for which the arrival of the battleship provided a focus and incentive. However, the representatives of the contact commission of the Odessa Social Democratic parties were not able to convince the battleship crew to land armed sailors and help workers to get weapons and act together. There was division and confusion amongst both sailors and strikers.

On 29 June [O.S. 16 June] 1905, Vakulenchuk’s funeral turned into a political demonstration. Demonstrators crowded on the flight of steps leading from the port area to the centre of the city were reportedly fired on by dismounted cavalry, a scene that forms the dramatic highpoint of the film "Battleship Potemkin". There is some controversy over whether the encounter on the Odessa Steps actually occurred but the Times of London correspondent and the resident British Consul reported a number of clashes between demonstrators and troops throughout the city and heavy loss of life. The evening of the following day Potemkin fired two shells at the part of the city containing the headquarters of the imperial military authorities. One civilian was killed and the city suffered limited damage. The Imperial military sent reinforcements to Odessa in order to suppress the civil disorder. The government issued an order either to force the Potemkin crew to give up or sink the battleship. Two squadrons of the Black Sea Fleet were sent for this purpose. They gathered at the Tendra Island on 30 June [O.S. 17 June] 1905. Potemkin faced the joint squadron and — refusing to give up — sailed through the centre of it. This “silent battle” ended victoriously for Potemkin: the crews of the joint squadron refused to fire at the battleship and one of the battleships — Georgiy Pobedonosets — joined Potemkin. The joint squadron went to Sevastopol. The three rebellious warships headed for Odessa. However, the recently mutinied battleship Saint George soon turned against the Potemkin by means of a counter-mutiny, and ran aground on the shores of Odessa.

The Central Committee of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party tried to provide support for the Potemkin uprising. However, Mikhail Vasilyev-Yuzhin, who came to Odessa at the request of Vladimir Lenin to lead the uprising, found the battleship had left the port.

In the evening of 1 July [O.S. 18 June] 1905, the battleship sailed for Constan?a (Romania) together with the torpedo boat N267 for fuel and supplies (by that time, Georgiy Pobedonosets had surrendered to the authorities). On 3 July [O.S. 20 June] 1905, the Ship’s Commission issued appeals “To all civilized world” and “To all European powers”, proclaiming the crew’s firm decision to fight against the Tsarist regime. Romanian authorities refused to permit supplies to be sent to the battleship. The same happened in the Russian port of Theodosia on 5 July [O.S. 22 June] 1905 where a landing party from the warship was fired on by troops. On 8 July [O.S. 25 June] 1905, Potemkin returned to Constan?a and its crew handed the ship over to the Romanian authorities.

The Romanian government then returned the battleship to the Russian navy. In October 1905 it was renamed to Panteleimon (??).

In April 1917 the ship was renamed to Potemkin-Tavricheski (??-??) once again, however, in May they changed it to Borets za svobodu (?? ?? ? - Freedom Fighter). In 1918 it had been captured by the Germans, then recaptured by the White Russians. In April 1919, the interventionists scuttled the ship in Sevastopol so it wouldn't fall into Bolshevik hands. After the Russian Civil War, the wreck of the Potemkin was raised from the bottom of the sea and dismantled because of irreparable damage.

The majority of the mutineers chose to remain in Romania after 1905, at least until the revolution of February 1917. Of those who returned to Russia in the immediate aftermath of the mutiny, seven men were executed as ringleaders while fifty-six crewmen were sentenced to varying terms of imprisonment. A number of petty officers from the Potemkin were able to successfully argue that they had acted only under duress, while the crew of the Viekha, a support vessel caught up in the mutiny when it encountered the Potemkin, were acquitted after it was established that they had successfully argued for the release of their own officers.

Amongst the six hundred former crewmen of the Potemkin who remained in Romania in 1905 and generally merged into the local population, was the leader Afanasy Matushenko. Together with four colleagues Matushenko returned to Russia under promise of an amnesty in 1907. He was however arrested and hanged. Another leader, Joseph Dymtchenko, fled Romania in 1908 with thirty-one other sailors and settled in Argentina. At least one sailor, Ivan Beshoff, made it to Ireland via Turkey and London (where he allegedly met Lenin). He set up Beshoff's fish and chips in Dublin, Ireland. He died on October 25, 1987, aged 102, likely to be the last survivor of the crew.

Lenin wrote that the Potemkin uprising had had a huge importance in terms of being the first attempt at creating the nucleus of a revolutionary army, especially since a part of the imperial armed forces had sided with the revolution. Lenin called Potemkin an "undefeated territory of the revolution." The Potemkin uprising had a significant influence on the revolutionizing process in the Russian army and fleet in 1917.

The Star Trek Ship

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http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Potemkin_%28NCC-1657%29">What[/url] the meaning of Potemkine is...Part 2</a>]
The USS Potemkin (NCC-1657) was a Constitution-class starship in service during the late 23rd century.

In 2268, the Potemkin was part of a small task force that participated in war games to field test the experimental M-5 computer, which had been designed by Doctor Richard Daystrom. The M-5 was installed aboard the Potemkin's sister ship, the USS Enterprise.

When the M-5 unit suffered a disastrous malfunction during simulated combat, it caused the Enterprise to attack the other Starfleet ships with full phasers rather than minimum-strength beams that were standard for such situations. At least five hundred people aboard the USS Lexington and the USS Excalibur were killed in the initial attack. The Potemkin and the USS Hood attempted to retreat, but were nonetheless hit numerous times by full phasers from the Enterprise. This resulted in an unspecified number of casualties.

Following the crippling of the Excalibur, the Potemkin and the other two remaining ships were ordered to destroy the Enterprise to end the threat. Fortunately, the Enterprise was able to deactivate the M-5 computer before the three-ship battle force attacked. (TOS: "The Ultimate Computer")

In 2269, the Potemkin was scheduled to rendezvous with the Enterprise in the Beta Aurigae system. The two ships were assigned to conduct gravitational studies of that binary system. The Enterprise, however, was diverted by a distress call from Camus II, causing the mission with the Potemkin to be delayed. (TOS: "Turnabout Intruder")

In 2270, the Potemkin was ordered to transfer a shipment of the life-saving medicine, strobolin, from Beta Canopus to the freighter USS Huron. The Huron was then to transfer the drug to the Enterprise so that it would be received within the three-day time frame needed to cure Spock's choriocytosis infection. (TAS: "The Pirates of Orion")

In 2293 the Potemkin was conducting a scientific survey near Klingon territory during the time Operation Retrieve was proposed. It was among the starships that would have been assembled for the proposed assault that would have rescued Captain James Kirk and Doctor Leonard McCoy from Rura Penthe. According to the plans, the Potemkin would have retrieved the two Starfleet officers while having her port and starboard flanks covered by the USS Eagle and the USS Excelsior, respectively. (Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country)

Source: wikipedia (to see the original source page click the link above each quote.)

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