This is so f*&^#$ stupid..

**Bunni** · 12-20-09, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I say we do the following:

1. Shorten the rounds and time per map.

2. Add some of the customs and less played maps to the mapcycle, so they come up in the automated votes.

Problem is that the short-comers dont want to play anything other than dust2, office, pira, port and excessively whine when anything else comes up during their short stay. Though i do like the idea of a map cycle with very very limited options for votes (maps that were played 2 or maybe 3 maps ago cannot be rtv'ied to or voted to).

**Adretheon** · 12-20-09, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

2. Add some of the customs and less played maps to the mapcycle, so they come up in the automated votes.

Then you know what happens? We constantly play Mill or Tuscan. No matter how you look at it, people will want to play the same maps. It's going to happen. Even with bunni's way, people will RTV the second a map they don't want to play comes on. It happens. If you don't wanna play the same maps, switch servers, rtv it to the map you wanna play, and prime it. There two birds with one stone.

If it were actually 50\50 all the time then we'd have a problem. But I don't think it is. When I played just about 24\7 on our servers I was fine with the maps, and so were the people I played with. CSS is very picky, most(as in about 70%-80%) players don't like playing CS maps, so that rules out about half the maps, and I feel we do a good job separating D2, pria, cbble, nuke, inferno.

And to Junkii sorry, but D2 unlimited sucks. Forest sucks. Contra sucks too. And 747 is a cs map that no one wants to play.

**B-@-n-@-n-@** · 12-20-09, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by cyaNide

Originally Posted by JUNKii

Yes, but when you look at the maps you can vote for. What are they? last I checked admins can change the maps that can be voted for.

Do you ever remember voting for the Top5 servers maps? The Top5 that were chosen are the ones that to you are "f*&^#$ stupid.."

They were voted on, so they will be played. Its that simple.

As for the reg server, the admin doesnt have time to make a custom map vote as they play. The default maps are chosen. Why? Because how hard is it to teach a person a new map during the warmup round? What does this cause? Teamplay drops. And "last I checked", this server is Texas TEAM PLAYERS. The maps may get old, but they are played everywhere. There is no escaping them.

So when a vote is put up, an admin is thinking of the community. So basic, default maps are chosen to keep the team play flowing.

And you may have noticed that when a weird, random map vote is chosen, 99% of the time its extended. And if it goes to a map rarely played, the server empties.

Its for the best of the server and this community. Which SHOULD make everyone tolerate it because this is the best servers/community around and always will be.

Texas ...TeamPlayers... Sukka Free Since 2005!

Dont get your panies in a wad man and yes it is a bit annoying and a cause of this is everyone pushes 1 i do it all the time but i could be wrong...
and i love forest dre :P

**Adretheon** · 12-20-09, 05:22 PM

I've seen D2 win as #5 plenty of times to know that people can stop for a sec to look at the vote before voting.

**Bunni** · 12-20-09, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Adretheon

I've seen D2 win as #5 plenty of times to know that people can stop for a sec to look at the vote before voting.

well, eh maybe... but look: http://texasteamplayers.hlstatsx.com...=maps&game=css

not nearly enough balance, too many short-comers.

**CivilWars** · 12-20-09, 05:26 PM

The reason we never play customs is because they are not in the regular votes, only nominate and admin votes. If they are an option then the players that are on truly decide. What the people want they get. I think if a map is worthy of being on the server it is worthy of being voted on.

**JUNKii** · 12-20-09, 05:39 PM

You've got me all wrong. Im not saying we should take out the overplayed ones. Im saying that it would be fun for us to play something new a few times a day. Rather than once a week we go to something new.

You all are compairing this to something that happend a long time with the custom maps server. Im not asking for that. I just would like to see new maps. But if we stick to the same maps, how would we teach new players the map if we dont ever go to them. You cant comparie that time period to now. (even thought it wasnt that long ago)

TeamPlayer has nothing to do with wanting to go to new maps to make more. When were on a new map we should all be TEAMPLAYERS and help the guy next to you know the map. If you want to bring the name teamplayer into this, we should all be teamplayers on new maps and help others. Am I right? Admin is thinking of teamplay yes. But im not saying it should be everytime custom maps on the vote just some times the be a "Should we play a custom map" vote up. And if the verdict is no... then the comunity has spoken.

Who are you to speak for the whole comunitys well-being? I posted this because when I was in the TTP servers my TEAM said it was a good idea, but some of you took it the worng way.
And bunni i hope you arent saying i am a shot-comer, because fyi all day Im on the servers due to my condition. and the extended player are forced to play the maps that are over played about 3 times a day. which is about 30 minutes permap. and therefore making them play the maps about 4 times which is 2 hours of the same map, and yes, some do suck it up and play them. but Im the one who doesnt want to anymore.

And how about no voteing on maps. in the forums we make a vote. on the rotation. and it will go d2 cbble pira inferno ect and fitt some customs in there. Its not golden but it could work if we try it. maybe so twinks and turns

think about it Big Dog
Thank you cival! thats what Ive been trying to say!

**Toad** · 12-20-09, 05:41 PM

I wish that we could get the vote options start with 5 and go to 0 instead of starting at 1. People would actually pay attention to the vote then, and it wouldn't cause you to miss bringing up your pistol and vote for lord knows what when it pops up mid-round.

Even if we had a automated admin type message that said "VOTE IN 10 SECONDS" 10 seconds before the 5 minute vote time we'd get more 'people voting for what they want' and less 'wait what did i just pick?'

**(2)manno** · 12-20-09, 06:11 PM

lol, yep. has definately happened to me a few times.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I say we do the following:

1. Shorten the rounds and time per map.

2. Add some of the customs and less played maps to the mapcycle, so they come up in the automated votes.

Yes, and we did just have a poll re: a new format that could be used for both.

**Fajita!** · 12-20-09, 06:12 PM

I know what bunni is saying.

The other day me and him played for about 5 hours, played Port, Office, Dust 2, Port, Inferno, Cbble, D2 in that order. Other different maps are fun every once and a while.