Thread: Hostages, rules clarification please

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

The way i see it as its the similar to bomb objectives you have 2 options you only have to complete one objective. T's forcing you to go to the difficult one just isn't right.

Are you saying T's forcing you to have to rescue the more difficult hostages isn't right or that T's forcing you complete the harder of the two objectives isn't right?

However if you best way is only killing ct's then you're not pursuing the objective by bypassing the main point of the map.

With that same logic it should be ok for the T's to kill all four hostages and play catch me if you can with the CT's.

Just another reason why the concept of CS_maps are flawed in this game.

Originally Posted by Adretheon

However if you best way is only killing ct's then you're not pursuing the objective by bypassing the main point of the map.

With that same logic it should be ok for the T's to kill all four hostages and play catch me if you can with the CT's.

Then you better ban Hub, cuz I am sure I have seen him kill the last 2 hosties on office.

man this is such a gray area

if it were possible to change the server settings, i recommend the following:
(1) hostages can't die. this ensures that there is always an objective (like always having a bomb in a bomb map).
(2) all forms of damage completely go through hostages, as if they were not there. this prevents T's and CT's using them as a shield.
(3) only 2 hostages need to be rescued in order for CT's to win (perhaps change this to 3, as now the hostages cant die). this is to mimic taking A site or B site on a bomb map.

if those changes are not possible, i recommend the following:
(1) T's are not allowed to intentionally shoot the hostages in any way shape or form. this is to prevent killing the 2 'easy' hostages. it's not a problem that the t's are killing the hostages for an advantage. the problem is that there are only 2 hostages remaining and with so much damage flying around is it very easy for those last 2 hostages to die, thus eliminating the objective for the CT's. combine that with T's hiding behind the last two hostages and it's almost certain there will be no hostages left to rescue. it's it is up to admin to judge each case.
(2) CT's are allowed to intentionally shoot hostages. this is to allow them to win if they have already rescued 2.

It's really simple. Terrorist cant shoot hostages.

CT's can shoot hostages as long as some have been rescued. It's called collateral damage. In the real world, you risk a little to save a little, risk alot to save alot....

most admins generally will warn them. but on certain maps if the T's kill all the hostages the auto lose which helps deter such actions.

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

It's really simple. Terrorist cant shoot hostages.

CT's can shoot hostages as long as some have been rescued. It's called collateral damage. In the real world, you risk a little to save a little, risk alot to save alot....

So then why can't the T's do it? It's technically the same thing. The T's objective isn't to protect the hostages.

I am fine with the Ts shooting the hostages, just like I am fine with them kicking the bomb in the water, or to some other unreachable place, on de maps, but maybe that is just me. The goal after all is to win. Maybe the other part is I just hate cs maps, so screw the hosties.