Thread: Now tell me Avalanche isn't biased towards the Axis....

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EVERY other map is pretty even in terms of wins/losses.

Those stats are not even being updated/tracked anymore....but, you see my point.

According to our map stats on game me, argentan and kalt are even more biased towards Axis. Donner and colmar are the only ones with bias towards the allies, and both are slight.

guyver what is your point? lol

How are our map stats any more relevant than those? Those are global.


If those stats were still being tracked, it would be the same (60%/40%) if not worse. ANY vet DoD player (and I'm not talking DoD:S here, either) will tell you that Avalanche is Axis biased.....and they'll tell you that without blinking an eye. The map has been in the game almost since the beginning. (Beta 2.0 February 6th, 2002)

The map wasn't changed that much when it was ported to the new engine, either.

The Axis have the better Sniper and MG spots.
The Axis are going downhill, the Allies are going uphill.

It ain't rocket science.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by i8pptuakamonstercam

guyver what is your point? lol

My point is that space is under the mistaken illusion that Avalanche isn't horribly one-sided.

Originally Posted by Guyver

How are our map stats any more relevant than those? Those are global.

Those are the only ones relevant to me. Besides, any other server I've played on, allied players sit back, especially on avalanche. Sitting back as allies on avalanche is just waiting to lose.

My point is that space is under the mistaken illusion that Avalanche isn't horribly one-sided.

Not horribly. After all, other maps are, according to ours stats at least, worse. Even then, its not much more than other maps. I tend to prefer allies on most maps too (especially avalanche).

Originally Posted by space.cowboy

Those are the only ones relevant to me. Besides, any other server I've played on, allied players sit back, especially on avalanche. Sitting back as allies on avalanche is just waiting to lose.



Not horribly. After all, other maps are, according to ours stats at least, worse. Even then, its not much more than other maps. I tend to prefer allies on most maps too (especially avalanche).

Yes....horribly.

...and I've seen people always push on Avalanche (even pre-DoD:S) as Allies...and still lose...and lose horribly.

Originally Posted by Guyver

Yes....horribly.

...and I've seen people always push on Avalanche (even pre-DoD:S) as Allies...and still lose...and lose horribly.

Winning on Ava as allies is not hard, you just need a well disciplined team, whos focus is on controlling church and apartments. The problem is that unless you are willing to enforce calls on a pub server you will never get such a team. Axis has defenders advantage basically. Its not that it cannot be overcome its that you need to play as a team to overcome it and most jackasses who are on the allied side in the general population don't. If you have a terrible axis team they can get rolled like anybody else, and I have seen this happen.

-H

This is old news, Guyver. Everyone knows the allies have a disadvantage. It doesnt make the map any less fun. It just demands more teamwork and coordination than the cookie cutter maps.

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Avalanche needs the back way into Church from Allies sniper window (above 2nd) back to help with balance.