Rhys said I should start posting my wisdom

**~~Tholis~~** · 05-25-12, 01:16 PM

I was taken back by that but well. Sure why the hell not.
I'll flesh these posts out as time allows and from my computer.

Thought one: When considering stats, please go for vit and defense. Glass cannons are fun, however if you join my hell run with 12k HP I vote kick in a moment.
Thought two:
When joining a game you make it harder on everyone else. Be sure you can pull your weight, if you can't solo it don't drag a group down hoping someone is going to pick up your monster buffing laziness.

Thought Alpha:
Advanced tooltips, elective mode. If you don't have them on you are doing it wrong end of sentence!!

Thought bravo:
Since you just turned on advanced tooltips you'll notice everything in the game is based off weapon damage. Each ability does various amounts the runes change all kind of things much more detail to be had here.

thought Please just listen

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Use it buy a new weapon every 4 to 6 levels, or sooner. Since it's all about weapon damage you need them when you move from act to act, as the level curve ofthe monsters increase. For the love of god just trust me. Buy blues if you have to. Search for you damage stat, vit, and if you can afford it a socket, as a ruby will enhance you Dmg loads.
A new weapon changes your time to kill in a huge way. Sort the search on the AH by dps and find something for a reasonable price.

I'll add more later.
Things to come, why to ignore magic find, how best to socket, why should I listen to Tholis, and many more exciting topics.

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Yes I caved and bought it..

**~~Tholis~~** · 05-25-12, 01:16 PM

NM and Hell advice.

I'm sure many of you are leveling at a good paces and coming into NM/Hell and finding the game change just a bit. I am combing these two difficulties as they are really just the lead up to the true game, at least the best loot the most painful game experience you could have and of course the difficulty that 99% of hardcore characters will never see.

NM starts at 30
Hell at 50
These are solid level requirements even for solo play, I recommend 31+ for NM, the level gives you better DR and damage against the foes you will face. Hell I recommend the same thing with Try for 51+ before you start.

Gaining that extra level is quiet easy.
Head to Act III Light the signal fires quest, portal once the game loads and then get to the fighting. If you are not 60 you should be socketing a ruby in you helmet, the best ruby you can make, or beg I'll help anyone with this. EXP % increase is amazing trust me. Now the reason we choose this quest and this act is simple there are tons of monsters here i meant tons. On normal I've gotten 83 kill massacres on my barb and thats the idea. You want to keep rolling in the kills. The %EXP does modify the massacre bonus

while you are killing like a hero make sure to light the singal fires. NM xp is 22k per quest while hell yields 66k normal only turns out about 2k if i remember right. I'll cover how to chain kills in another post.

With every difficulty a new weapon is a MUST. Search for a level 31 requiring weapon and see the difference with regards to stats and damage.

more later.

**~~Tholis~~** · 05-25-12, 01:17 PM

This Post is for those you you who might be crazy enough or bold enough, or lucky enough to make it to inferno.

AS most of you know for NM and hell, we were stacking VIT. The extra hp was easy to come by, and magic items (that is the blues ones) are generally cheap on the AH for you DMG stat + Vit. Inferno is much different..... 50k hp is nothing. I know i ran around with it for a while. I learned the easy way.

Resistances are key.
Sac vit if you have to for Resistance, 20-25k depending on class is a good number of hp to shoot for.
870 Resistance is my current target. I'll let you know how it goes. But i have a feeling if i can get the gear life will be much less painful.

Will be adding more as i spend more time dying to help those who come after me.

**KromMonkey** · 05-25-12, 03:58 PM

This week on "Thoughts by Tholis"....so you thought you knew how to play Diablo.

**Cojiro** · 05-25-12, 04:24 PM

fyi we dont really have a short character limit like on blizz forums. you can post a lot more in 1 post and edit it to your content.

look forward to your updates though.

**SpiritOfF1re** · 05-25-12, 04:57 PM

Just started my Hell playthrough, 53 DH, how much HP should I have? It would seem I'm extremely unhealthy.

**~~Tholis~~** · 05-25-12, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by SpiritOfF1re

Just started my Hell playthrough, 53 DH, how much HP should I have? It would seem I'm extremely unhealthy.

15k+ if you can help it.
It is very hard to not stack Dex and go cannon with DH.
You have to resist though.

In hell the chances of running into a jailer with a number of Additional powers is very High....
You are going to get hit just make peace with it. Understand that no matter what you do you will eat a face full of damage.

**Graverunner** · 05-25-12, 07:46 PM

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on magic find. I have a decent percentage but I've been placing much less of a priority on it as I get better gear because basically, what's the point of having it if you are going to pass up good shit because it doesn't have magic find.

**DJ Ms. White** · 05-25-12, 07:56 PM

Magic find was great for me when I started off and there wasn't much in the AH...but now? Yeah, it's a lot easier to go to the AH and find EXACTLY what I'm looking for than hoping that I'll get that special drop. I mean, I get a lot of drops that are magical and higher, but do they have good stats? Not generally, at least not in terms of what I want.

**~~Tholis~~** · 05-26-12, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Graverunner

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on magic find. I have a decent percentage but I've been placing much less of a priority on it as I get better gear because basically, what's the point of having it if you are going to pass up good shit because it doesn't have magic find.

So thoughts on magic find.
It's simple, when you kill a monster a certain level of item will be dropped, based on a table, the loot table for the monster.
This loot table is only item based, for the requirements. The item gets selected. The rarity is then chosen by the game % chance of drops are different based on the type of mob. ALL RARITY of items can drop from all monsters, as well as barrels and chests. Keep in mind though that unless the monster is a high enough level to drop a set item it will not drop said set item. Obviously a level 37 Legendary will not drop from a level 5 mob. Once the Rarity is determined your magic find is then applied to the drop. So if you had say 100% magic find and a blue was selected to drop it would become a yellow. If a white was selected to drop it would become a blue.

Don't stack MF, if you get a good piece with some mf use it. anymore than 40% is really a waste, 25% is ideal for lvl 60s.

But it gets worse. %MF DOES NOT change the stats (volume or numeric value) on the item.

So you are thinking what happens when a Rare is set to drop and i have 100% MF. WELL you have a small chance sub one percent for it to become a set or legendary, in that order.

So in short MF is great for rares/Blues.
Sub thought great for making money.
Most people think they are getting a better chance at the nice and wonderful high value items. Which while 'true' it is such a small amount it's pointless.

Champ packs also drop better than bosses, except for Legendarys.
Nephelium Valor which grants MF/GF stacking at 15% for five stacks is wonderful.
It also makes bosses drop more on kill. which means a much better chance at getting those truly hard to find items.