Thread: Base Raiding

Civil. What is the point of you being in here? I'm not acting like the god of Rust, I never said I'm allied with 8 people and me and 8 people raided newbies. It was 4 of us, and we did not know who we were raiding.

I believe guyver has gotten in a lot of trouble in the past, trolling forums and fanning flames where he did not belong. As a mod of this forum, I respectful ask that if you do not play the game, have never played the game, have no intention in buying the game, then please move on.

I told you my point in my first post. If you guys want to grow the server population then in my opinion raiding someone like Blonde or Kanati that are solo and have next to nothing anyway isn't the best way to make them want to come back. Teaming up with 2-3:1 odds against people who are new also isn't the best plan. You are correct in the fact that I don't have the game, and may never get the game, but as a high admin it is in my job description to help the health of every game, including Rust.

I understand sandbox games, I play what is probably the largest and most well known sandbox game in EVE. I routinely have been part of groups that shit all over other groups, and took pleasure in it. I have also been on the receiving end, and yet still came back for more. Do I advocate being nice to people just because in EVE? Not at all. I take pretty much every opportunity I can to kill, pod, ransom, or whatever else people that are not part of my team. I also do not care if my team outnumbers my enemy 2-3, or even many more, to 1, so I totally get being the bully. The difference is, as I have already stated, that when you give new players to OUR server no chance because you continually chop their legs off before they can even stand, let alone walk or run, then they will choose to go elsewhere.

You can choose to agree or disagree. You can choose to claim it's not your fault. You can keep doing what you are doing, or you can change. Really and truly it matters not to me, but in the grand scheme of things if the server never grows past 20 or 30 people then I am willing to bet based on my experience that many of those 20-30 will get tired of the server and move on leaving a few of you to wonder where everyone went, then to leave yourself, leaving us without a server at all. If that is not your goal then all I do advise is that you ask yourself if you are potentially helping or hurting with population growth when you crap on one person's measly little shack in the woods.

Oh, and the difference in what Guyver has done in the past, and what I am doing now is a simple one. Guyver has tried to tell people how to play a game that he may or may not play. I have no desire to tell you how to play a sandbox game. I was one of the advocates of spying and treason on our very own DayZ server when we had it. What I am telling you is what will happen should those who play the game create an environment where nobody else chooses to join/stay on the server, so it sits empty. Will that happen because of you, your group, or whomever? I don't know, nor do I really care, and that is why I am not telling you that you can't kill/raid/sabotage/anything if you choose to do so.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I respectfully call bullshit. Don't make me go find the post where people are saying that the server is currently split up 13-2. I guess next you are going to try to tell me that when the server was 13-2, or whatever the exact numbers were, that none of those 13 amassed a massive cache of supplies. Oh wait, there was also a post about that when someone claimed all deals were off because someone has "too much" C4, so the world is not safe. Oops.

Again, a further example of how far off base you are. I see your "18-2" post, try putting it in some context. And the acknowledgement of said situation and further breakup of the group is evidence that we have done and are doing the right thing, with out taking notes from "Civils play by play of how to play if i actually did play". I don't know why i even bother, i could explain to you how we spent our time ammassing metal to build a community base that is now used by TWO people, not weapons, gear and C4. OR how Kraker, Krom, Maverick, Vlade and others built our OWN bases, and farmed independently. Or how I and others have gone out looking for PvP, where i repeatedly lost everything i had on me. But i wont, because YOU have a post that says the server was 18-2. I know, i'll just go blow it out my ass.

Everyone who has been in game has put their best foot forward to make things work. And you come in here and bitch at a few stumbling blocks and make a point of insulting someone you obviously have issues with? WTF? Way to help the team.

Ok, since my name was brought up. I'll chime in. The ONLY reason I said anything to people about CS:GO is because well-known regulars who were pining for a better server, spent most of their time playing match making even after a new server was bought.

As for Rust...this topic has made me glad I didn't buy it.

Yes, it's killed or be killed, but you have to find the fine line between "Playing the way I want to play." and "Making the server a place where everyone wants to play."

Too much of the former ...and you're going to be in a empty server, pinching your wrinkled scrotum.

And some more info about Blondes base..... I told Kraker that i was pretty sure that thing sprouted up before Blonde joined the server. And i was shot up by the guy building it on a night when Blonde wasn't on the server. Also, there were TWO people, with limited inventory space that took shit out of that base as well. TWO people doesn't exactly paint the picture of 20 guys forcibly butt fucking the new guy. Ive had bases with 10 large crates completely fucking cleaned out before on a server that had a steady pop of 20 +/- players. THAT is getting ass raped and worthy of a rage quit.

And Blonde, i understand and agree with every single post you made. I went through the same exact things, only difference, you spoke what you thought, here where its relevant. I can look at it from your point of view, ive been there, so it all makes sense to me.

Originally Posted by Guyver

Ok, since my name was brought up. I'll chime in. The ONLY reason I said anything to people about CS:GO is because well-known regulars who were pining for a better server, spent most of their time playing match making even after a new server was bought.

As for Rust...this topic has made me glad I didn't buy it.

Yes, it killed or be killed, but you have to find the fine line between "Playing the way I want to play." and "Making the server a place where everyone wants to play."

Too much of the former ...and you're going to be in a empty server, pinching your wrinkled scrotum.

Plain and fucking simple.

Glad you guys have it all figured out. Carry on, and I guess we will all just wait and see.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Glad you guys have it all figured out. Carry on, and I guess we will all just wait and see.

Im sorry Civil. I got all pissy. Seriously, i want to see this work, and to be honest, everyone i have been in game with has slipped out of their comfort zone to make this work. Indeed we shall see, and i truly hope we can play here as we did on BMRF as TPG united.

I am not trying to start a pissing match, or tell you guys how to play. I am trying to ask you to think about how you come across when you do the things you do, and post the things you post. Kanati and Blonde have both threatened to quit(I doubt either truly will, but who knows), and I have had another person contact me on Steam saying thanks for speaking up because they felt the same way, but didn't want to say anything. Does 3 people mean that you are all failures at life? Not in the slightest.

I made it perfectly clear that I am basing my perception on the forum posts and private conversations I have had with others. Take it, leave it, or do whatever you choose with it, but I am willing to bet a dollar I am not the only one that has the perception that it wouldn't be much fun to buy and play this game on the TPG server at this point. As a matter of fact at least a few long time regs have posted just that.

I still stand behind your right to build castles, kick over castles, or even let the cat crap in your sandbox.