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01-23-12, 08:58 PM #32
Re: Science project Oil and shutting up the tree huggers for good.
Bullshit. It is stupid to do a study like this. We aready know everything has an effect on the environment. Trying to pretend we know everything about everything and misrepresenting numbers is whats make people think the whole thing is garbage. This study and this book did just that. You would do better tucking this thing in a corner and never mentioning it again. Wasted money. At least it wasnt done here and maybe we didnt pay for it.
You have no way of knowing what animal populations would be if we were not here. Evolution would have taken its course and there is no pretending we know what the next step is. Lets not forget wild dogs, wolves, cats, and wild cats can bread out of proportion in the wild when we do not interveen.
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01-23-12, 09:20 PM #34Re: Science project Oil and shutting up the tree huggers for good.
It certainly seems to have riled you up, maybe that was the point.
You have no way of knowing what animal populations would be if we were not here. Evolution would have taken its course and there is no pretending we know what the next step is. Lets not forget wild dogs, wolves, cats, and wild cats can bread out of proportion in the wild when we do not interveen.
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01-23-12, 09:26 PM #35Re: Science project Oil and shutting up the tree huggers for good.
It certainly seems to have riled you up, maybe that was the point.
You have no way of knowing what animal populations would be if we were not here. Evolution would have taken its course and there is no pretending we know what the next step is. Lets not forget wild dogs, wolves, cats, and wild cats can bread out of proportion in the wild when we do not interveen.
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01-23-12, 09:44 PM #36
Re: Science project Oil and shutting up the tree huggers for good.
Lions, tigers, lynx, etc. exist in vastly smaller numbers. Wolves and coyotes do too. And we can speculate, because at one point they were not here, and we were not, and we have many probes in different topics: The fossil record, peat bogs, frozen critters, etc.
And tiny little housecats likely never would have happened because the energy demand is far to great for a natural system. We needed to feed them (a lot) to get them where they are today.
But in the end, if the reset button as you call it gets pushed, it is over. So, since these stupid studies all coalesce via multiple probes to help determine what things might push that reset button, is that not a good idea?
Saying something like "we know we affect the environment [so why study how]" is like saying "we know there are enemies over there coming to kill us, but gathering intelligence about them is stupid." Oh wait, "trying to pretend like we know ..." So it is impossible for us to know? I disagree, we have nukes, spacecraft, microchips, we have altered our planets environment more than any other single organism in it's history; I think we are easily smart enough to make those models.
We can successfully predict countless natural phenomena with 100% accuracy, There are many things we cannot predict with 100% accuracy (yet) or at all. But we should try, so we don't press reset.
Frankly, I would assume any logical human would agree that accidentally killing ourselves through ignorance is far more stupid than studying natural science and acting on the findings.
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