Marijuana rehash.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-09-12, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

Yep and where did I say solve. There's no way you spent enough time exploring that site and it's links to even make such an off the cuff statement as that...............Oh wait I just realized who I was trying to debate a topic with.

Yeah you did forget who you were debating with. Its going to take more then an pro argument from you with a reference to a pro weed site as evidence.

Oh and im still on the site.

**deputyfestus** · 04-09-12, 07:38 PM

It's not solely a pro weed site. Hemp Is Not Pot: It's the Economic Stimulus and Green Jobs Solution We Need

**AetheLove** · 04-09-12, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

What good is that little bit of money when the government spends more then it can ever take in? LOL even better what good is when they haven't even been able to make a budget in 3 years? Its simply generating revenue to continue spending more then you take in with no accountability.

I didn't say there weren't also other problems to work on.

If someone's stance on the legal status of marijuana is based solely on the potential for tax revenue, then they are ethically and morally bankrupt and the things they say are of very little interest to me.

Cheers,

AetheLove

**deathgodusmc** · 04-09-12, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

It's not solely a pro weed site. Hemp Is Not Pot: It's the Economic Stimulus and Green Jobs Solution We Need

I disagree with your remark that its not a pro weed site. I wasnt just talking about the part people like to smoke. However they do not have anywhere on their site a single negative that i have found so far or a mention to actually have conclusive testing done on it. They do at least make arguments that people here haven't made.

**deputyfestus** · 04-09-12, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I disagree with your remark that its not a pro weed site. I wasnt just talking about the part people like to smoke. However they do not have anywhere on their site a single negative that i have found so far or a mention to actually have conclusive testing done on it. They do at least make arguments that people here haven't made.

I'm not sure there is a negative with hemp other than the fact it is a native naturally occurring weed and if a bird craps a load of seeds in your yard I guess getting rid of it from your lawn would be a negative.

**Pint** · 04-09-12, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

He's still wrong.

Ok you are the police chief of the largest city in the world. You have 47,960 officers...........

FFS

**deathgodusmc** · 04-09-12, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Pint

Ok you are the police chief of the largest city in the world. You have 47,960 officers...........

FFS

Ok

New York is our largest police force with 34,500 members. Crime rate last year 220,984. Thats 605.435 per day .0175 per officer per day.

Philadelphia has 6600 officers. Crime rate 78,919 (2009). Thats 216.216 per day .0327 per officer per day.

Baltimore has 1918 officers. Crime rate 45,513. Thats 124.693 per day .065 per officer per day.

Detroit has 3000 officers. Crime rate 2009 (newest one i found) was 73,178. Thats 200.487 per day .0668 per officer.

Put that with the others and you should have all the proof you need that more man hours does not always equal less crime/safer. Or we can go into crime rate per square mile of city area and see where that leads us.

**Alundil** · 04-09-12, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

He's still wrong. When you have small towns which have small police forces you have smaller crime rates and most of those will not be violent crimes. A few as examples.

Longwood Crime Statistics and Crime Data (Longwood, FL)
772 total crimes with 48 officers. Thats crimes 2.115 crimes a day for those 48 officers. It breaks down to .0440 per officer per day.

http://www.casselberry.org/documents...210/Annual.PDF
1082 total crimes with 52 officers. 2.964 crimes per day. It breaks down to .057 per officer per day.

I can give you more for florida but its a bit harder for other states due to not knowing the areas to look.

Orlando has 750 officers covering 18858 crimes last year. Thats 51.665 per day. It breaks down to .0688 per officer per day.

So as i said its a false argument and the following still applies.

That assumes that their job ONLY involves processing crimes that make into a statistical report. How much of their daily work time is spent not producing an arrest that results in a conviction? Probably a good amount. Just because there is no arrest associated with police action doesn't mean that time is free and open for other uses. I think you're making an assumption based on the wrong, or incomplete, data.

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-10-12, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Alundil

That assumes that their job ONLY involves processing crimes that make into a statistical report. How much of their daily work time is spent not producing an arrest that results in a conviction? Probably a good amount. Just because there is no arrest associated with police action doesn't mean that time is free and open for other uses. I think you're making an assumption based on the wrong, or incomplete, data.

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

So your question is how many are detained on top of how many were prosecuted/released due to insufficiant evidence? Those numbers are public record as well. Even with them its still a false argument because small town have never had the crime rate/violent crime rate large cities do.

Even worse would be you would be proving my point even more so with those numbers because the argument was that small towns/small police forces can not do their job as effectively while prosecuting drug offenses. We both know small towns are going to prove they are effective even more by adding those events to the tally.