It never happened.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-14-12, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Guyver

Still.....this smacks of "Ooops, we better cover our asses, and just make it go away." ...on the military side. No pun intended.

You really think brass gives a damn about covering the ass of some e-4 e-5 or whatever? Im sure there are cases but on average the military will prosecute you just to prove the point that your ass belongs to them.

There are also going to be cases where enlisted will try to bury something but in cases of rape that a pretty remote possibility because it gets reported outside of your command.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-14-12, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

You got statistics to back that up or are you just applying your powers of speculation again?

How many news articles would you like?

**DJ Ms. White** · 04-14-12, 09:52 PM

I'd rather those than speculation.

**DJ Ms. White** · 04-14-12, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

How does it prove my view is skewed? I repeated what everyone in boot camp was taught. That not skewed.

Now when did i say they were all liars? I said these females dont get any pity from me. Last time i knew that doesnt translate into 19k.

Any idea how much she makes on her disability discharge versus an early retirement?

According to the article, most of those women do not get anything for being discharged as they were. They can appeal, but it's mostly fruitless. The appeal process essentially consists of getting the military to consider you as having PTSD, which would actually qualify for disability benefits.

**Guyver** · 04-14-12, 09:58 PM

Your view skewed? lol.....Do you really want me to answer that?

You're so biased towards the military, that it borders on fanatic, deathgod.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-14-12, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

According to the article, most of those women do not get anything for being discharged as they were. They can appeal, but it's mostly fruitless. The appeal process essentially consists of getting the military to consider you as having PTSD, which would actually qualify for disability benefits.

Then the article, the females, or both dont know what they are talking about. With that kind of discharge there is next to no fight to get a disability check. However you missed what the artcle said. It said they are having issues getting a PTSD claim. That would be on top of what they could very well be collecting right now. It would be that next step closer to a 100% disability check. Or did you have more to tell me on how the VA and its disability claims work?

**deathgodusmc** · 04-14-12, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Guyver

Your view skewed? lol.....Do you really want me to answer that?

You're so biased towards the military, that it borders on fanatic, deathgod.

I love the Corps but i'll be the first one to point out how fucked up it can be. I just wont jump on the little bandwagon every time one of these items come up because i know the reality of it.

**iLLusioN** · 04-14-12, 11:12 PM

I know for the AF you report sexual assaults to a representative that is completely outside the local chain of command. Going from there if you choose to "officially report" the sexual assault, OSI(the AF equivalent of NCIS) will then investigate the rape officially and charges and whatnot will be pressed. If they go for the unofficial report they just get the treatment and whatnot. From what I've heard from a Navy friend the Navy is pretty much the same...

I did notice that the particular case they brought up was from 2003...The SARC program(which is the program/group that AF/Army sexual assaults are reported to now) wasn't started until 2004. It wasn't in place until 2005/2006.

Either way my point is, this was done before this program was in place...so they were probably investigated locally...but now their reporting agency doesn't fall under the jurisdiction of the chain of command...I'd say that steps are being/have been taken to remedy the problem.

edit:

Just saw one of the cases was newer than that. Point still stands...steps are being taken/have been taken to prevent it.

**deathgodusmc** · 04-14-12, 11:17 PM

The Corps is the same but the SARC program has been around since the 70's. Oh and its a SAPR's program in the Corps.

**Langrad** · 04-15-12, 12:23 AM

There was a news thing a few years back about the military discharging rape victims instead of investigating. Just saying Death, this isnt new, and the military isnt trying that hard to fix it.