Thread: Just....I don't know...prius over-exposure perhaps?

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Aren't you splitting hairs? Oil by itself isnt an energy source. It also requires an outside source for it to release energy.

The oil (or coal, etc) is sitting in the ground. It is ready to burn. Sure, there is extraction cost, and something needs to be built in which to burn it. But the energy is stored in the oil. Same for nuclear fission. The radioactive material is already in the earth.

People who talk about hydrogen energy aren't talking about huge gaseous-hydrogen reserves that we can mine and distribute and then combust (creating, as Hanibal says, water). You have to use an energy source (electricity) to get the hydrogen (by cracking water - electrolysis). In this sense, hydrogen sort of works like a battery. This process also requires some infrastructure - but additionally, you have to consume energy to MAKE the hydrogen. Hydrogen is not a primary source of power. It's an intermediate stage.

There may be some new tech that can recover hydrogen from something else more efficiently than simply electrolysing water. I've done it, as a fun experiment. A bottle full of H2 and O2 makes a really nice pop when you ignite it.

Burning hydrogen is cleaner: you get water. I don't know if there are (relatively) efficient engines, or if fuel-cell technology is up to where we'd all call it "mature." Fuel cells are interesting in that they can work with a hydrocarbon source of hydrogen (like an alcohol) instead of needing pure hydrogen. There are other types of fuel cells. Some of them don't use hydrogen, but of course then they make something other than water.

Cheers,


AetheLove

Originally Posted by hannibal

This is an example of the pure insanity of the world we live in. Its not like the guy is doing anything wrong. The Prius is a terrible invention because it promotes false economy. I bet this dumb bitch drives it in such a way that she gets worse fuel economy than the guy in the truck. The funny thing is that some people would call me a socialist for some of the views I hold. However, I understand that Hybrid cars are about looking good, rather than doing good. Batteries aren't the solution, Hybrids are much worse for the environment than regular cars. The best solution is Hydrogen.

-H

I think Mr. Hannibal is liking the Drama forums hhhhmmmmmmmm

I'm all for cleaner technology relating to generating power, vehicles, etc...

But PLEASE let me still have access to gasoline in the future so I can drive my '67 Chevy... That is all. I love my classics. Keep some sort of reserve, plleeeaaaassse!

Sent from your mom's pubic region.

Why is dgod programmed to receive and why are you singing about it?



On second thought, Nevermind.

Backing away slowly.......

Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.

What chu takin bout willis?

sigh - guyver sarcasm fail - I know the Eagles.....