Do not use Rage's name in vain.

**SmokenScion** · 08-17-12, 11:42 AM

Tom Morello: 'Paul Ryan Is the Embodiment of the Machine Our Music Rages Against' | Music News | Rolling Stone

Paul Ryan's love of Rage Against the Machine is amusing, because he is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades. Charles Manson loved the Beatles but didn't understand them. Governor Chris Christie loves Bruce Springsteen but doesn't understand him. And Paul Ryan is clueless about his favorite band, Rage Against the Machine.

Yeah, don't know how you could like Rage, and be Americas Republican VP Nomination.
Demographics, us, you and I. I like Rage. To appeal to my demographic, he likes Rage.
But music conveys thoughts and Ideas, especially RATM's.

It'd be like the Uber Christian Evangelis and "Like a Virgin".

**Warprosper** · 08-17-12, 03:23 PM

You can like music and not have to understand it.

It's like that french song in Saving Private Ryan. It's a damn good song, but I don't understand a single word of it.

**SmokenScion** · 08-17-12, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

You can like music and not have to understand it.

It's like that french song in Saving Private Ryan. It's a damn good song, but I don't understand a single word of it.

So what you're saying is Paul Ryan doesn't understand English?

**deathgodusmc** · 08-17-12, 04:25 PM

I hate that song and rage.

**AetheLove** · 08-17-12, 04:29 PM

Songs have meaning beyond that which their singers intend.

I won't completely disconnect the one from the other (though I have friends who would), but when an artist creates something and sets it loose in the world, they give up control of its meaning.

So, the re-election campaign of Reagan somehow used Springsteen's "Born In The USA" to promote themselves... and it was effective.

Or Nike sold shoes with the Beatles' "Revolution" (and Lennon's "Instant Karma").

Maybe Ryan doesn't understand Rage Against The Machine, but he's made a conscious decision to let something about what they represent in the public's mind represent him too. Whether that's effective or not might have very little to do with what the Band's position is on the matter.

Hell, maybe he does understand - but doesn't care. If putting that music next to his face gets him elected, then mission accomplished. If it works, then it works.

Orff's "Carmina Burana" is also like this. "O Fortuna" in particular has somehow become permanently associated with the malevolence of demons, and The Devil, and all sorts of Antichrist Armageddon crap. The sounds of the music work well for that, but the lyrics have nothing at all to do with that. ... which turns out not to matter at all.

Football players don't care what a song means, as long as it gets them up for the game.

By the way, I'm not trying to excuse any of this. It pisses me off too. :)

Cheers,

AetheLove

**Cojiro** · 08-17-12, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I hate that song and rage.

surprising.

**dex71** · 08-17-12, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

So what you're saying is Paul Ryan doesn't understand English?

Or maybe it's because Rage's singer suck so hard that his words are unintelligible. Seriously......Rage needs to drop his ass....sooooo much better with Chris Cornell (Audioslave).

Or maybe it's because Rage is musically so different than everybody else. Minus the singer, Rage is a killer band, and Tom Morello has taken his instrument where no guitar has gone before.

And besides.....who gives a shit what they are singing about. These idiot political bands need to drop their bullshit, and concentrate on making good music (looking at you Rage....and Bono). I don't get my political views from musicians or actors.
I love the song Lola by the Kinks, but I still wouldn't screw a tranny. Same diff.

**CanadianPersian** · 08-17-12, 04:32 PM

lolz, yeah, i saw this. what a fucking tool.

i'm surprised conservatives aren't tripping out.

**Cojiro** · 08-17-12, 04:34 PM

i get my political beliefs from oprah and the kardashians. By the way this thread reminds me about the "Pussy Riot" debacle going on right now and surprises me you guys arent debating hard on it already.