US embassy attacked.

**Fovezer** · 09-17-12, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

Sad thing is he will get re-elected as much as it kills me to say it. Republican prez with these numbers wouldn't stand a chance or even any other Prez for that matter. Obama keeps to his base and that's why him and the Dems have got nothing done in the past 2 years. Even when the Dems had control of the House & Senate all they could do was Obama Care...When you reply to this you will say the Repubs block everything. I will LOL in your face cuz at least the Repubs will vote on the shit. Harry Reid doesn't even let people vote on it. The Repubs passed several job bills. Reid killed most if not all.

What numbers? Obama is around 50% approval. Bush's numbers in 2004 were roughly the same and he got reelected. And nothing got done? Not only health care reform, but also a successful stimulus bill. Go read that thread posted about what Obama has done. He isn't perfect, especially with his shitty track record regarding financial reform, but he's got quite a bit done.

And the Republicans are too busy voting to repeal PPACA over 30 times, which they know will not work, and won't vote on the President's jobs bill. They're too busy playing partisan games to care about the country.

Now lets go through some of these bills, shall we, instead of just reading the names? And I know you just copied and pasted this, so I definitely know you didn't look into any of these.

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HR 3630 - The Middle Class Tax Relief & Job Creation Act of 2011

Freezes federal workers wages for 3 years, issues permit for Keystone XL pipeline, cuts maximum 99-week unemployment benefits to 59-weeks, allows drug testing for those benefits, cuts funding for sections of the health care bill, etc.

No way that was going to get passed when it cuts all those things and doesn't create anything.

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HR 1633 - Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act of 2011

How is this a jobs bill? It stops the EPA from regulating air quality and excludes farms from it.

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HR 10 - Regulations from the Executive in Need of Scrutiny (REINS) Act of 2011

Forces a ridiculous standard that all new regulations be approved by Congress before they are implemented. Not a jobs bill and it handcuffs regulatory agencies.

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HR 3010 - Regulatory Accountability Act of 2011

A revised version of HR 10. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 527 - Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act of 2011

Not a jobs bill, either. It forces impact studies to be performed before new regulations come about and limits the regulatory power of the EPA and OSHA.

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HR 3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011

Really? Now you're pro-immigration? LOL. This allows more foreign workers into the country. So, in a way, I guess this IS a jobs bill... for foreigners.

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HR 3094 - Workforce Democracy and Fairness Act

A union-busting bill. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2930 - Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act

Exempts companies who raise less than $1 million in venture capital from investors from SEC regulations. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2940 - Access to Capital for Job Creators Act

Repeals regulations and exempts certain people from SEC regulations. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 1965 - Securities Laws Amendment

Changes threshold for SEC regulation from 500 shareholders to 2000. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2273 - Coal Residuals Reuse and Management Act

Removes coal ash regulations from the EPA and gives it to the states. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2681 - Cement Sector Regulatory Relief Act of 2011

Puts a stay on cement production emission standards. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2250 - EPA Regulatory Relief Act of 2011

Puts a stay on EPA regulations governing the Boiler MACT rules, which is about mercury and other hazardous pollutants. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2401 - Transparency in Regulatory Analysis of Impacts on the Nation Act of 2011

Asks for a review of EPA regulations regarding air, water, waste, and climate change. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2018 - Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011

Stops the EPA from revising or enacting new regulations regarding water pollutants. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2021 - Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011

Opens drilling off the coast of Alaska by amending the Clean Water Act and limiting the EPA's ability to regulate it. Removing regulations isn't a jobs bill.

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HR 910 - Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011

Prohibits the EPA from regulating greenhouse gases. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 872 - Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act of 2011

Pretty much completely removes the need to get a permit to spread any pesticides and fungicides, which means they can be used without any oversight whatsoever. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 1231 - Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act

Pretty obvious what this one does. This isn't going to create any jobs.

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HR 1229 - Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act

This one tries to do the same thing as the previous one, but by making it onerous on the government to deny permits. Not creating any jobs here.

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HR 1230 - Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act

Forces the government to sell oil and gas leases in the Gulf and off Virginia. Also removes need for environmental impact statements. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 1904 - Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act of 2011

A corporate giveaway to Resolution Copper Mining. Trades land so they can mine in a national forest. Not a jobs bill.

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HJ RES 37 - Disapproving the rule submitted by the Federal Communications Commission with respect to regulating the Internet and broadband industry practices

States opposition to net neutrality. Not a jobs bill.

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HR 2587 - Protecting Jobs From Government Interference Act

Stops the NLRB from restricting where a company can relocate to. Not a jobs bill.

So the only “jobs bill” in here is the one that creates jobs for foreigners! All the others are deregulation and cutting funding for the health care bill. This is all garbage and an attempt to allow corporations and other businesses to duck regulation. These are NOT jobs bills, and all this attempt at deregulation is exactly WHY it doesn't get passed in the Senate and wouldn't be signed by the President anyways. The GOP House members have no desire to work on a bill that has a chance, all they want to do is push deregulation.
The American Jobs Act, proposed by the President, is a REAL jobs bill.
American Jobs Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But hey, it's probably better to ignore that and keep playing games by passing a pointless repeal of Obamacare every week.

**Xavsnipe** · 09-17-12, 01:39 PM

NOBAMA!

**Xavsnipe** · 09-17-12, 01:40 PM

I think we need to bomb and annihilate anyone who embraces the Muslim religion.

**MaFioSo** · 09-17-12, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

ouch when you start drinking the dick head tea...

When he accused me of siding with terrorist....

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**-Lazarus-** · 09-17-12, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Free speech doesn't include "fighting words" or phrases that are meant to Incite fear or Panic.

Ah yes, and now we are on to the next set of Democrat talking points. That this filmmaker yelled fire in a movie theater... Bullshit. I'm not having it, and I doubt the majority of Americans will either. Yep, those poor Muslims were afraid and panicked when this shitty little movie came out. NOT. And the "fighting words" ruling was about face to face confrontation.

I mean damn, "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" was more offensive. I don't recall people getting killed over that, or Adam Sandler being brought into the police station in the middle of the night either.

**Xavsnipe** · 09-17-12, 01:50 PM

All muslims need to be quarantined in a country in Africa.

**SmokenScion** · 09-17-12, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Ah yes, and now we are on to the next set of Democrat talking points. That this filmmaker yelled fire in a movie theater... Bullshit. I'm not having it, and I doubt the majority of Americans will either. Yep, those poor Muslims were afraid and panicked when this shitty little movie came out. NOT. And the "fighting words" ruling was about face to face confrontation.

I mean damn, "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" was more offensive. I don't recall people getting killed over that, or Adam Sandler being brought into the police station in the middle of the night either.

Zohan was made to make money. This movie was made to insight violence.

**Xavsnipe** · 09-17-12, 02:01 PM

Zohan didn´t make fun of any religious topics did it??

**Xavsnipe** · 09-17-12, 02:05 PM

Seriously though, the reaction from the muslim extremists is irrational, stupid, retarded, idiotic, etc. Moderate Muslims should speak out against these assholes as well as those asshole Imams, or monks or priests or whatever they´re called that are calling the muslim community to "rise against these blasphemers!". Fucking douchebags.

**Fovezer** · 09-17-12, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

That's the point Fov. Muslims already did try to do that here by attacking our sovereign soil and killing Americans abroad - and they have succeeded so far. The Obama administration, which you have been defending, is appeasing them by trying to censor speech and using the terrorists' own obscene justifications for violence as a part of their speech on this issue to the world. Your rights are directly threatened already. Are you not aware that some of your own liberal brethren are already calling for people like this filmmaker or the pastor who burned the Qur'an in recent years to be investigated by the justice department or put on trial as an accessory to murder for their supposed incitement of Muslim violence?

At this point I would not be surprised to see the Obama administration agree with that assessment, considering their performance on the issue so far. Disgusting only begins to describe what is happening here.

So attacking places abroad is attacking my freedoms here? Lol, whatever you say. My rights are not at all threatened by what has happened overseas, and your insane paranoid fearmongering isn't going to change that. You can continue to think that Obama is trying to take your freedoms, even though you've demonstrated a total lack of understanding about things like the First Amendment and what it actually does and doesn't do, but your argument is laughably unconvincing to any rational person.

Obama has handled this just fine, and that is what really pisses you off, so you are grasping for any straws you can to try and lay any tiny speck of blame you can on him.