Mitt Romney debates himself

**CivilWars** · 10-08-12, 12:04 PM

My best bet is Donald Duck gets as many votes as this dude.

**triggerhappy2005** · 10-08-12, 12:27 PM

Then let's vote for change, vote for Stewart Alexander/Donald Duck.

**Morningfrost** · 10-08-12, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Hocus Pocus

Since we've all acknowledged that politicians are full of shit, what will you say when he doesn't? You fall into the same trap. Why would you invest in someone who gassed up a bunch of promises after you just got done criticizing Obama for? Are we that naive? At least Obama has shown improvement, not as much as people would like or as fast as people would like, but signs of recovery are apparent (unless of course you just want to go against the grain and say everything is terrible and it's all a big lie).

The guy is not perfect, but I'll take any progress I can get. Rather than fall into the same booby trap with a guy who just discovered the middle class last Tuesday. That poor plumber with a 35% corporate tax rate, guess he wont be paying dividends to his shareholders? LOL

^This^.

I'm still open to Romney, but to this point I just haven't seen enough to make me take a flyer on someone new as opposed to someone who HAS shown improvement, even though that improvement is nowhere near as fast as we'd hoped.

Things are on the upswing again, so maybe I'm just being overly optimistic but I'm not predisposed to blowing up the administration when things are slowly getting better, just on the off chance that they'll get better quicker.

~Morningfrost

**SmokenScion** · 10-08-12, 02:24 PM

Or Worse, the deregulation caused the recession, now you're looking to the Same ideals for Faster Growth? Hello, Mcfly?

**deathgodusmc** · 10-08-12, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I am so sick of people blaming Bush for everything, and Obama getting off scott free. I will continue to call BS every time. Let's revisit the list for those who truly care:

The economy - Many blame Bush for the housing "crysis", yet the bill that spawned it all was signed by Clinton. Others blame the wars, yet they were extended by Barry. Others blame the low taxes, yet the Bush tax cuts were extended by Barry. In conclusion, yes, Bush did some stupid shit that hurt the economy, yet some of it was handed to him by his predecessor, and others have been extended by his successor.

Loss of liberty - I hate the patriot act, the TSA, and many other POS things that started under Bush, but if they are so terribad then why have they not been repealed by Obama instead of having extensions signed on many/most/all?

Do I think Bush was the best President ever? Hell no. Do I think he inherited problems that were out of his own control? Hell yes. Do I think he created more problems for us while in office? Hell yes. All that being said do I think BHO should get a free pass for 4 years? Hell no. If all of these things that Bush did were so obviously wrong then why in the hell is Barry extending them?

Do I think Romney is any better/worse than Barry or Bush? "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

The sad part is if he gets a second term he'll still be blaming Bush and people will still be stupid enough to agree with it.

**deathgodusmc** · 10-08-12, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Civil, what will you say if Romney is elected and holds to his campaign promises about the economy, jobs and spending?

Whats said will depend on where its coming from. Some will scream how good he is and he held to his word. Some will say it only happened because of what Obama did in office. Myself i believe you'll have to wake me back up and get me a coat because i passed out when hell froze over.

**-Lazarus-** · 10-08-12, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Hocus Pocus

Since we've all acknowledged that politicians are full of shit, what will you say when he doesn't? You fall into the same trap. Why would you invest in someone who gassed up a bunch of promises after you just got done criticizing Obama for? Are we that naive? At least Obama has shown improvement, not as much as people would like or as fast as people would like, but signs of recovery are apparent (unless of course you just want to go against the grain and say everything is terrible and it's all a big lie).

The guy is not perfect, but I'll take any progress I can get. Rather than fall into the same booby trap with a guy who just discovered the middle class last Tuesday. That poor plumber with a 35% corporate tax rate, guess he wont be paying dividends to his shareholders? LOL

I have a question for you about your comments. You just said that at least Obama has shown improvement. Please, specifically describe what improvement you're referring to. Please remember what I said. Be as specific as possible. What improvements have you seen Obama make?

**-Lazarus-** · 10-08-12, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

^This^.

I'm still open to Romney, but to this point I just haven't seen enough to make me take a flyer on someone new as opposed to someone who HAS shown improvement, even though that improvement is nowhere near as fast as we'd hoped.

Things are on the upswing again, so maybe I'm just being overly optimistic but I'm not predisposed to blowing up the administration when things are slowly getting better, just on the off chance that they'll get better quicker.

~Morningfrost

I will ask you what I have asked previously. What indicators specifically are telling you that we are on an upswing or that things have improved during Obama's presidency?

**deathgodusmc** · 10-08-12, 02:42 PM

I am curious at to what improvements in our situation we can attribute to Obama.

**-Lazarus-** · 10-08-12, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Or Worse, the deregulation caused the recession, now you're looking to the Same ideals for Faster Growth? Hello, Mcfly?

Are you referring to de-regulation that was signed by Pres. Clinton and that President Bush has somehow taken the blame for ever since Obama was elected?