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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger10 View Post
    Did you mean something else? Prices get out of whack all the time in business, that's the nature of market volatility. That's when you can make the most money. But in a "free market" there are natural checks and balances which will eventually run their course to bring everything back to equilibrium.

    I think you meant to say that when government intervenes, those checks and balances can sometimes be neutralized or at the very least, slower to act, right? Don't meant to put words in your mouth, just checking.
    Yes sorry for the confusion. This is exactly what I was trying to say. I was on the phone while I typed that post... :-)

    I also was looking at this in a more long term sense than short term. You are right that markets can be volatile, but this is typically a short term thing due to unexpected influences - natural disaster for instance.

    But government intervention is kind of insidious in that it typically starts a crazy cycle that is difficult to get off of within specific markets. Regulation can be good in moderation, but price fixing is a big no-no in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CivilWars View Post
    I guess I am gonna stop trying to make logical and coherent posts, and just post more "nuh uh, you are" as those seem to get more views and replies. Sigh.
    I've asked myself the same question and have even called out a few people for completely ignoring some of my posts. I guess you have to see it from their point of view. If they come across a "logical and coherent post", what are they to do about it? Nothing, they know what you are saying is true and there is nothing they can argue, so you get no response.

    It is only the incoherent and biased posts that get all the responses. The reason being that others can find flaws or information to contrary to these posts, which results in a lot of replies and arguing.

    Just remember, if your posting and no one is replying to it, it is because nobody can find a flaw in what your saying, so you are speaking the truth, which is a nice fresh of breath air considering all the misinformation and biased opinions that are floating around these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger10 View Post
    Shut up. You're not the boss of me!

    U mad bro?

    Do you even lift?!
    I lifted 29 IRC and Nulli caps last night, so no, I ain't mad anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    No, I'm not. The only reason prices go out of whack in a market driven economy is when the government messes with them. The government messes with the price of gas by taxing the heck out of it, for example. Price fixing on the part of government is a sign that something has gone terribly wrong with their plans. Unless the intent of the activity is to change the market fundamentals of our economy and turn it from a free market economy into a different one like socialism. And of course I don't like that either.
    Well then we need to get America thinking more like that. I know the price of gas has come up a number of times in this election but both parties want to keep it low and thats all they care about. Subsidies on gas have been around forever and that is why our gas is so cheap, but most of America doesn't consider it cheap.

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    Well then we need to get America thinking more like that. I know the price of gas has come up a number of times in this election but both parties want to keep it low and thats all they care about. Subsidies on gas have been around forever and that is why our gas is so cheap, but most of America doesn't consider it cheap.
    I dont buy that. They never needed the subsidies to make a profit. So why would we consider it cheap while a single company like chevron can post a 67 billion dollar profit for one quarter?

    Then there is always the argument we pay less then they do over in the UK while ignoring how much the taxes are added to it to help pay for their heath care system.

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    They never needed the subsidies but they still get them. But you still seem to be arguing for them?
    Rather that money go to something more useful then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gehn View Post
    They never needed the subsidies but they still get them. But you still seem to be arguing for them?
    Rather that money go to something more useful then.
    You misunderstand my point. I am not arguing for them. I would also like to see that money fund something useful.

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