Anyone want to still blame Obama?

**deathgodusmc** · 11-10-12, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

If only we all had your security clearance, then we could too be privy to all this inside info.

Continued denial in the face of proof they lied. Truly i am shocked by your post. Just shocked.

Meh who we kidding? We all knew what you were going to deny the facts.

**deathgodusmc** · 11-10-12, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I would settle for a, "We fucked up, it's classified, we are taking steps to prevent a similar fuck up in the future." The truth will come out eventually, and I am sure it is somewhere in the middle of, "There was nothing more we could do." and "10,000 Marines were 5' away, but told to stand down and let people die.(or only had rubber bullets or some other shit)"

Agreed. If they had done that from the start they wouldn't be trying to keep the lie going now. I dont think anyone expects no mistakes to ever happen but i dont think its to much to ask for owning your mistake.

**SourceSkills** · 11-10-12, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by SpecOpsScott

I was afraid of this.... obviously your tin foil hat is a little too tight.

Unfortunately, if you even question certain things, even if the facts instigate said questions, your mental stability is questioned by some, and the more outspoken "some" at that.

Your the one that needs a perspective change here. It is the philosophy of any good citizen to question everything. Your failure to do so is a sign of ignorance and blind faith in the system. It is people like that I just can't stand. you will never know the truth because it isn't convenient to the people at the top for you to know it. So is "get over it" a good way to end this conversation? No but keeping on will serve as equally pointless.

Sent from my phone (not some stupid clever synonym of a flash of light)!

**triggerhappy2005** · 11-10-12, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Continued denial in the face of proof they lied. Truly i am shocked by your post. Just shocked.

Meh who we kidding? We all knew what you were going to deny the facts.

What proof?

**deathgodusmc** · 11-10-12, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

What proof?

So you started the thread and didn't bother to read the article? I gave you just some of the bases that prove they are lying. That doesn't even include the troops that could be closer to them. They have cars, trucks, helos, planes and everything so its not like they had to walk there. We had plenty of troops within range to get there with them knowing 1 hours after it started. I also doubt it took an hour for them to find out.

**-Lazarus-** · 11-10-12, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

So you started the thread and didn't bother to read the article? I gave you just some of the bases that prove they are lying. That doesn't even include the troops that could be closer to them. They have cars, trucks, helos, planes and everything so its not like they had to walk there. We had plenty of troops within range to get there with them knowing 1 hours after it started. I also doubt it took an hour for them to find out.

What about the AC130 that was on station, flying above the area and not allowed to fire? Also DG you forgot to mention AFRICOM HQ, where there are Tier 1 operators stationed.

So now this article is proof that no lying went on about the event? Hardly. You've seen the video footage I posted a month ago showing officials telling bald faced lies. What, so now you are content to say "meh, never mind"?

**SpecOpsScott** · 11-10-12, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Your the one that needs a perspective change here. It is the philosophy of any good citizen to question everything. Your failure to do so is a sign of ignorance and blind faith in the system. It is people like that I just can't stand. you will never know the truth because it isn't convenient to the people at the top for you to know it. So is "get over it" a good way to end this conversation? No but keeping on will serve as equally pointless.

Sent from my phone (not some stupid clever synonym of a flash of light)!

Uhhhh, thats exactly what i was saying in not so many words, sprinkled with some classic forum sarcasm. I firmly believe we should question everything to an appropriate extent.... everything.

**SpecOpsScott** · 11-10-12, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

I would settle for a, "We fucked up, it's classified, we are taking steps to prevent a similar fuck up in the future." The truth will come out eventually, and I am sure it is somewhere in the middle of, "There was nothing more we could do." and "10,000 Marines were 5' away, but told to stand down and let people die.(or only had rubber bullets or some other shit)"

Isn't this basically what we are getting now? Thats pretty much the gist of everything Obama has said on the matter since the John Stewart interview.

**deathgodusmc** · 11-10-12, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by SpecOpsScott

Isn't this basically what we are getting now? Thats pretty mush the gist of everything Obama has said on the matter since the John Stewart interview.

If they weren't still playing the whole we couldn't get there in time card maybe. Even if they knew 1 hr after it started the fighting went on for 7 hours. Fast deployment units could have been there well before midpoint. All they have to do is put the bullshit back on the shelf and own the fuck up.

**CivilWars** · 11-10-12, 10:58 AM

Granted, I don't watch much of the news, but everything I have seen all along is that "nothing" could have been done either because we didn't have advance notice (debatable), we didn't know soon enough (questionable), or there was nobody close enough to help (I guess that one depends on what your definition of is is).