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    Quote Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER*** View Post
    So, if his testimony proves the Obama Administration was lying to the American people and responsible for the deaths of 4 Americans, would you support his Impeachment?
    No, he'd have to have broken the law to be eligible for impeachment. Clinton was impeached for perjury, which is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc View Post
    I can sum your post up in much fewer words. Blah blah blah blah blah damned right.

    However you do know you can be concerned for the truth and not like Obama right?
    Yeah, this is about the level of response I've come to expect from you. And those who are going full bore on this Benghazi thing are not the ones concerned with the truth if they are already talking about impeachment. They don't even have any real evidence or facts of anything, and they are ready to start impeachment proceedings. Those people are the ones not concerned about the truth.

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    No, he'd have to have broken the law to be eligible for impeachment. Clinton was impeached for perjury, which is illegal.
    True but until everything is known we dont know if any laws were broken and by whom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fovezer View Post
    Yeah, this is about the level of response I've come to expect from you. And those who are going full bore on this Benghazi thing are not the ones concerned with the truth if they are already talking about impeachment. They don't even have any real evidence or facts of anything, and they are ready to start impeachment proceedings. Those people are the ones not concerned about the truth.
    And you came to that conclusion while ignoring the "if's" being thrown out? Or was it just because they were against the left? Never mind dont incriminate yourself.

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    True but until everything is known we dont know if any laws were broken and by whom.
    But even with the facts presented as is what has he broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedTribe View Post
    No, he'd have to have broken the law to be eligible for impeachment. Clinton was impeached for perjury, which is illegal.
    What law did Nixon break? Don't bother answering... it was obstruction of justice. I'm pretty sure Obama as head of state will be proven to have broken the same law now that the investigation is under way. But Nixon wasn't finally impeached nor did he leave office for just that offense. The reality is that a President can be impeached for whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers to be an impeachable offense at the given moment in history. Furthermore there is case law supporting the assertion that the Supreme Court has no juris diction over an impeachment proceeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc View Post
    And you came to that conclusion while ignoring the "if's" being thrown out? Or was it just because they were against the left? Never mind dont incriminate yourself.
    Yeah, I'm not playing the "if" game. You do because it lets you blame Obama for stuff you have no idea about because you don't have any facts and don't have to worry about the truth. When you can show me where he broke the law, and even if he did lie and cover this up he didn't do it under oath so it's not perjury, then we'll talk. You have absolutely no evidence of anything though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adretheon View Post
    But even with the facts presented as is what has he broken?
    Hard to say at this point as far as im concerned. I would think if it comes out he knew ahead of time and did not act criminal negligence could fit the bill but like i said they have to get everything on the table to figure anything else out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fovezer View Post
    Yeah, I'm not playing the "if" game. You do because it lets you blame Obama for stuff you have no idea about because you don't have any facts and don't have to worry about the truth. When you can show me where he broke the law, and even if he did lie and cover this up he didn't do it under oath so it's not perjury, then we'll talk. You have absolutely no evidence of anything though.
    If your not playing the if game thats fine but you dont get to exclude words from what people have said to make your point. LOL you crack me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    On what grounds would President Bush have been impeached? President Clinton was impeached not for a blow job, but because while serving as President of the United States, he lied to the American people as well as under oath in sworn testimony. If President Bush had either lied under oath in sworn testimony or lied directly to the American people about material facts like President Clinton did, then yes, you can bet your biscuits I would have demanded he be impeached.
    The Republicans were being childish little brats when it came to impeaching Clinton and wasted a ton of money. Over an affair that no one gave a shit about and had nothing to do with the country. And "lying under oath" isn't the only impeachable offense. Treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors is what the Constitution calls for. So we can use the same criteria people are using here for Bush. He lied to get us into war in Iraq. We went in on false pretenses. So if you are going to say Obama should be impeached for lying, you'd absolutely have to have supported the impeachment of Bush. (Which, for the record, I did not.)

    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    So what is your measure for accountability? If President Obama's is proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have been lying and/or specifically instructed others to lie about the attack in Benghazi and say it was not a terrorist attack or coordinated attack, are you saying that you would still not support impeachment?
    No, I would not support it. Unless he lied under oath or committed treason by helping Ansar al-Sharia attack, you have no grounds for impeachment. We can't impeach every President who has ever told a lie.

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