Thread: The numbers don't lie.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

So if you kill a child in the womb that could otherwise breathe on its own outside the womb, thereby not allowing it to take a breath (late term abortion, which Obama has supported fervently) then that isn't a person?

I gave you my standards for the subject. You dont have to agree.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

I celebrate Kwanza muthafucka.

Man you have to at least tell us which personality were talking to.

Originally Posted by dex71

From gun control to abortion in the first page. Then from multiple personality disorder to arrest records on the second. Tied the old record.......again.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

The one actual police reports (not joking) describe as a black woman.

I still chuckle about that story.

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Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

I think you missed his point.

Not really. There just wasn't much point in debating his point because we've wasted countless other threads on it. I chose to address his statistics question instead by pointing out how many "unborn children" we kill each year really depends on when you believe they become "unborn children" rather than a fetus. For me....I don't consider them to be "unborn children" until they are developed to the point where there is a reasonable chance they could survive on their own outside the womb.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Do you have children Frost? If so, at what point did you consider them to be your children? When you first saw their heartbeat at 6 to 8 weeks?

No I don't, nor do I plan to. I get enough headaches just from dealing with my nephews, no reason to bring more time headaches into the picture.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Since Obama was elected Planned Parenthood has reported record numbers of abortions year after year. Let's also ignore the fact that this represents nothing less than genocide for the African American community... But yeah Nuck, I know what you mean.

The fact that you see abortions as genocide against black people is astounding Laz....but honestly not all that shocking.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

So if you kill a child in the womb that could otherwise breathe on its own outside the womb, thereby not allowing it to take a breath (late term abortion, which Obama has supported fervently) then that isn't a person?

In the eyes of the law, it isn't. In the case of homicide, for example, it doesn't matter how developed the child/fetus is. If it doesn't take a breath, it's not considered homicide, it's considered an illegal abortion. If it DOES take a breath before you kill it, it's considered homicide.

I realize that's a bit of a roundabout way to answer your question, but the easiest answer is that everyone's definition is going to be different. Some believe life starts at conception, others when they can hear a heartbeat, and multiple other "checkpoints." You'll never be able to convince anyone of your point of view, no one else will be able to convince anyone else of their point of view.

~Morningfrost