The numbers don't lie.

**HeavyG** · 01-12-13, 12:05 PM

Yawn...

Why don't you fools game. This is a gaming site, after all.

**dreaddman** · 01-12-13, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

Not really. There just wasn't much point in debating his point because we've wasted countless other threads on it. I chose to address his statistics question instead by pointing out how many "unborn children" we kill each year really depends on when you believe they become "unborn children" rather than a fetus. For me....I don't consider them to be "unborn children" until they are developed to the point where there is a reasonable chance they could survive on their own outside the womb.

Read the laws from various states, including the presidents home state of Illinois. If a person willfully does harm to a pregnant woman that causes the termination of the unborn child, then it is an act of homicide. For this purpose, the unborn child is considered an individual of the human species from time of fertilization until birth.

This, of course, doesn't apply to abortions.

720 ILCS 5/9-1.2

**moving-target** · 01-12-13, 12:33 PM

i thought after the elections lazarus woulda gone into hiding to lick his wounds but nope think he might secretly be rush limbaugh or one them types

**deathgodusmc** · 01-12-13, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyG

Yawn...

Why don't you fools game. This is a gaming site, after all.

Really? So what game exactly do we play on the SITE? Go play a game and let those that wish to talk do so.

**Morningfrost** · 01-12-13, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by dreaddman

Read the laws from various states, including the presidents home state of Illinois. If a person willfully does harm to a pregnant woman that causes the termination of the unborn child, then it is an act of homicide. For this purpose, the unborn child is considered an individual of the human species from time of fertilization until birth.

This, of course, doesn't apply to abortions.

720 ILCS 5/9-1.2

Nor does that apply to all states, including my own state of Florida.

State Unborn Victim Laws

~Morningfrost

**Xavsnipe** · 01-13-13, 02:40 AM

I just don´t understand gay people having kids. That´s just straightforward, outright corruption of the mind.

**HungerForce** · 01-13-13, 02:45 AM

So, Gay people can't have children, but criminals, racists, and other people who do nothing but spread hate and bigotry in this world can? I don't see how that's corruption any "Worse" then gay people.

**deathgodusmc** · 01-13-13, 07:33 AM

Im with xav on this one. I dont know about the corruption part though.

**Tenrou** · 01-13-13, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Im with xav on this one. I dont know about the corruption part though.

Okay so then why shouldn't they?

**dreaddman** · 01-13-13, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

Nor does that apply to all states, including my own state of Florida.

State Unborn Victim Laws

~Morningfrost

Correct. However, in your state, the threshold is at about the 24-25 week timeframe. So, technically, an inborn child is a member of the human species without taking s breath.