Thread: Video games and gun violence. Is there a correlation.

Originally Posted by Warflagon

I used to think I was argumentative.

I don't anymore.

Folks here take the cake, fuck it to syrup and then pour it over pancakes to serve anew.

I did like the TED talk though.

This is a debate forum isn't it? Just checking...

Originally Posted by Warflagon

Feeling defensive?

Feeling inflammtory?

Originally Posted by Ranger10

Exactly. Not as easy to commit suicide with a knife as it is with a gun. But in my opinion, the media essentially glorifies someone who kills women and children and people in theaters, who would otherwise just off themselves in a basement saving the rest of us the trouble of learning their names. I know the names of most killers repeated over and over by the media. I've never heard the names of the victims, except in small lists with a ribbon attached. There is something very wrong with that. I wonder how many of these tragic shootings would occur without the "Right of Free Speech" being abused by media outlets to get ratings?

The glorification by the media is no doubt a problem, but unless you want to start curbing free speech, not much can be done about that. It's one of the reasons I really hate American media.

Originally Posted by Ranger10

I find it hard to believe that someone who wants blood on their hands, willing to murder children is going to be concerned with their "energy" level. They'll drink a Red Bull.

And no... you don't have to kill someone with a knife by subduing them first. Contrary to the general consensus of modern day anti-gun opponents, people have been dying to a blade for thousands of years before now.

Red Bull? Really? I see that went way over your head. And I never said you HAD to subdue someone, I said that was one of the times uses a knife was more likely. And people have been dying by guns for a long time, too.

Originally Posted by Ranger10

Good stance to take. "We only care about stuff after it happens". Do I get to say, "I told you so", when it does happen? Part of me would LOVE to see all guns permanently banned, if for no other reason than to say "I told you so" when the next mass killing happens by a gun. However, it would sicken me to think that any silver lining could be gleaned from such an act, so I guess I'll retain my prevention is better than a cure approach.

Yes, because that is what I said. You just love to put words in people's mouths, though. You are the one saying this could just as easily happen with a knife with zero problem. Yet, we already have a number of mass shootings with 20+ deaths and none with knives. So you are comparing a reoccurring event to one that has never happened here. So when it does happen, let me know.

Originally Posted by Ranger10

Classic Fov. I use logic, just how you like it, and you call it "bad". Laughable. All logic is slippery slope. Why do you think we have lawyers in the first place? I'll give you a hint, to make it more slippery.

Now you are trying to excuse bad logic by saying all logic is slippery slope, therefore it's ok to use it? Is it safe to say, then, that using bad logic is classic Ranger? It's looking that way since you love to use that analogy based on such logic, or lack thereof. Is it too hard to use sound logic?

Originally Posted by Fovezer

The glorification by the media is no doubt a problem, but unless you want to start curbing free speech, not much can be done about that. It's one of the reasons I really hate American media.

So we'll curb the second amendment instead?

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Red Bull? Really? I see that went way over your head. And I never said you HAD to subdue someone, I said that was one of the times uses a knife was more likely. And people have been dying by guns for a long time, too.

Lets just go ahead and say you didn't really have a point with this portion of your argument shall we?

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Yes, because that is what I said. You just love to put words in people's mouths, though. You are the one saying this could just as easily happen with a knife with zero problem. Yet, we already have a number of mass shootings with 20+ deaths and none with knives. So you are comparing a reoccurring event to one that has never happened here. So when it does happen, let me know.

Are you trying to be dense? How man deaths a year happen from knives? There are more people who die in prison from sharpened toothbrushes each year than in these mass murder/suicides you keep harping on. And on the same day there was a mass murder with nearly as many deaths as in Newtown, but in another country. But I supposed you think it helps your argument to qualify your comment by saying, "It hasn't happened here yet, has it." That MUST mean it can't happen here.

Weak.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Now you are trying to excuse bad logic by saying all logic is slippery slope, therefore it's ok to use it? Is it safe to say, then, that using bad logic is classic Ranger? It's looking that way since you love to use that analogy based on such logic, or lack thereof. Is it too hard to use sound logic?

Uh oh... more slippery slope logic. I use sound logic all the time. You don't like it, so your natural response is to call it "bad". That's up to you. If you think it helps your argument or strengthens your position, which you can't do any other way, then by all means, call it so. That won't change anything.