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Pipelines are one if the safest methods of transport. When they do break it can cause lots of damage but it is still far safer than over the road. Underground pipe networks are very extensive. It would be impossible to not have pipelines near houses. Trains pose significant risk as well and we allow them to run right through the middle of our towns with all kinds of hazardous cargo. Shit happens.

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Originally Posted by flame

Pipelines are one if the safest methods of transport. When they do break it can cause lots of damage but it is still far safer than over the road. Underground pipe networks are very extensive. It would be impossible to not have pipelines near houses. Trains pose significant risk as well and we allow them to run right through the middle of our towns with all kinds of hazardous cargo. Shit happens.

Errrrr umm... at first I wasn't sure what you thought I was trying to say.

I'm done making guesses as to what trigger was asking. He can clarify if he wants.

But now I'm not sure what I think y'all are saying. "Shit happens" is the argument of dumb.

Of course shit happens. You can't account for everything. Things break. They break in ways we can't foresee.

But they also break in lots of ways we can foresee, and "oops. wow, I guess all those people are fucked" is what we're trying to avoid.

If I'm running a pipeline through a residential neighborhood, then I need to be asking myself, "what happens if that line breaks anywhere along these 5 miles?" I've got the surveyor's data (because I had to survey it to lay the line). I know what's flowing. I know how fast I can detect it, and how fast I can shut it off. I should be getting Risk Management on a cost/benefit analysis yesterday.

If I'm the local government, I will ALSO be asking those questions. I'll be looking for answers. I'll be wondering when the automated system for shutting down the flow was last inspected... or when it was installed... or... "what? You don't HAVE one? It's all manual control? I'm pretty sure the state mandated upgrades, like, four DECADES ago."

Pipelines are the most efficient method for transport. Maybe they're one of the safest too, but ONLY if someone is paying attention to how safe it is.

Anyway, I'll be curious to find out what happens to those people who won't be mowing their lawns for a while.

Cheers,


AetheLove

Legally speaking, diluted bitumen like the heavy crude that's overrun Mayflower, Arkansas, is not classified as 'oil'. And it's that very distinction that exempts Exxon from contributing to the government's oil spillage cleanup fund.

Arkansas oil spill: Exxon reacts to tax 'loophole,' pledges ?to cover all costs? ? RT USA

Originally Posted by AetheLove

Errrrr umm... at first I wasn't sure what you thought I was trying to say.

I'm done making guesses as to what trigger was asking. He can clarify if he wants.

But now I'm not sure what I think y'all are saying. "Shit happens" is the argument of dumb.

Of course shit happens. You can't account for everything. Things break. They break in ways we can't foresee.

But they also break in lots of ways we can foresee, and "oops. wow, I guess all those people are fucked" is what we're trying to avoid.

If I'm running a pipeline through a residential neighborhood, then I need to be asking myself, "what happens if that line breaks anywhere along these 5 miles?" I've got the surveyor's data (because I had to survey it to lay the line). I know what's flowing. I know how fast I can detect it, and how fast I can shut it off. I should be getting Risk Management on a cost/benefit analysis yesterday.

If I'm the local government, I will ALSO be asking those questions. I'll be looking for answers. I'll be wondering when the automated system for shutting down the flow was last inspected... or when it was installed... or... "what? You don't HAVE one? It's all manual control? I'm pretty sure the state mandated upgrades, like, four DECADES ago."

Pipelines are the most efficient method for transport. Maybe they're one of the safest too, but ONLY if someone is paying attention to how safe it is.

Anyway, I'll be curious to find out what happens to those people who won't be mowing their lawns for a while.

Cheers,


AetheLove

This is exactly what I was thinking when I posted.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

So shit happens is the argument of the dumb but you admit shit does happen. Im confused on whether your acknowledging that shit happens or trolling for responses to people that will use the actual phrasing. Let me know when you hear a pop.

Clearly you didn't understand what he meant.

He meant that by saying 'shit happens' as a way to justify bad decisions, is stupid thinking.

And implying that Aethelove trolls for responses is idiotic.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Im fairly certain he just called everyone that agrees sometimes shit happens dumb. In fact i dont have to even think that is what he said because thats exactly what he said.

You're still wrong.

Refer to my previous post as to how to be right.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

We suppose to drop to 12 year old mentality and keep saying nah ah until someone rage quits? I've said what i have to say on it.

You were and still are wrong.

You misunderstood his post.

That is all.