Thread: All Your Kids Are Belong to Us

Your kids belong to the state, comrade. What, you didn't know that?

Shorter Melissa Harris-Perry: All Your Kids Are Belong to Us | MRCTV
Seriously though... WTF Who thinks like this!? Sheesh.

It's a good Idea. Kind of goes back to the good ol' days. Like when you knew Tommy Mcguilicutty's Mother and knew she'd whip his ass for swearing. And you'd call her up and tell her. Nowadays its more like "who is this Little Piss ant tommy? Oh he lives next door? Who the fuck cares?"

Originally Posted by AetheLove

I watched the video and didn't hear anything about "the state" or "the government."

Seems like she said that it's not only parents who matter; that the broader community matters too. It's a good thing if a parent can provide a home that is healthy for children, or if a family can provide a wider support system to aid in the parenting. Isn't it also a good thing if the community can create neighborhoods that are safe, support education, and promote socialization?

So I don't understand why that video clip is a problem. It was an msnbc clip, book-ended with the animated logo of some mrc blog-mongering site. There's no analysis or commentary anywhere - the clip is presented as if it is self-evidently horrible (which I didn't get at all). The only thing added by the site is a sentence-fragment quip about how the presenter thinks that kids are public property... which is obviously not anything like what was said. Putting this in a private property vs public property context is idiotic - because kids aren't property.

You're calling her a Soviet-style communist? What am I missing?


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Take a gander at the comments. Its quite Obvious.

Originally Posted by AetheLove

I watched the video and didn't hear anything about "the state" or "the government."

Seems like she said that it's not only parents who matter; that the broader community matters too. It's a good thing if a parent can provide a home that is healthy for children, or if a family can provide a wider support system to aid in the parenting. Isn't it also a good thing if the community can create neighborhoods that are safe, support education, and promote socialization?


You're calling her a Soviet-style communist? What am I missing?


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I caught the message. Basically shes saying, free willed independent thinkers need to cave group think before we can make any progress, and that by encouraging free thinking in our children we are holding our advancement (as a society) back. I didn't want to hear that message, i wanted to hear what you heard, but i didn't.

I think society in many cases, like NY, spends more than enough on education but administers it poorly.

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

It's a good Idea. Kind of goes back to the good ol' days. Like when you knew Tommy Mcguilicutty's Mother and knew she'd whip his ass for swearing. And you'd call her up and tell her. Nowadays its more like "who is this Little Piss ant tommy? Oh he lives next door? Who the fuck cares?"

Yeah but that's not what she is saying. She's talking about the school system. Sorry man my my kids are my kids. Not yours or anyone else's. This isn't the old conventional wisdom. This is collectivism. Not good.

I think you're taking what she is saying in the wrong way, it's all matter of perspective and what you think she is implying. Had Bill O'reilly said something similar to this you would have interpreted it entirely different.

Do you really think she is saying you don't own your kids? That the kids belong to everyone? No, it's more likely that she is saying something similar to what Smoken said, which I think you may agree with. Back in the days there was more interaction and communication within the community. Neighbors knew each other by name and looked out for one another. If your neighbors kid was doing something wrong it wouldn't be out of line to tell them to stop and then to call his father. Nowadays everyone has this mentality that if he's not my kid I'm not going to do anything about it.

Also I think a lot of the political correctness and being so easily offended is what has caused the deterioration of relationships within communities and the isolation of neighbors. I think this is what she is talking about.

"Private notion of children, your kid is yours and totally your responsibility, we haven't had a collective notion of these are our children"

If you see a kid doing something wrong and tell them to stop, an offended parent knocks on your door asking you why you think you have the right to tell their kid what to do. That parent has the idea of his child is solely their private responsibility and nobody else should interfere. Which he has a right to do, but it doesn't help the child.

As I said I think children grew up much better when the entire community looked out for them (which is what she is saying). You knew your neighbors, you felt safe letting your kids play around the neighborhood because you knew that if they were in danger or they were doing something wrong, you knew one of your neighbors would act and then call you to let you know what happened. Kind of like when children use to play outside, it wouldn't be uncommon for a neighbor to come out with some lemonade for all the children, even though none of the children were hers.

You can't do that anymore, you do that and people call the police on you, citing you don't have a right to give their child drinks without their permission. Isn't that the type of liberal political correctness you hate? This is what she is speaking out against, parents shifting their thinking that under no circumstances should any person tell my child what to do. They have a "private notion of children".

I wonder if she believes the same priciple should apply to vaginas. Community first.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Yeah but that's not what she is saying. She's talking about the school system. Sorry man my my kids are my kids. Not yours or anyone else's. This isn't the old conventional wisdom. This is collectivism. Not good.

She only mentions the school system to make the point that we spend WAY too much on it without spending more on all the facets of Raising children.