Thread: I'm against gay marraige This is why

One major thing everyone is forgetting. Being married is not a right nor is it in the consitution.

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

By Big tymer's Logic, why don't we make it mandatory, that to have kids you must be married, and to be married you must have kids. I'd sign that law.

Marriage would be for Life, No escape, no divorce. Children would be first and foremost priority. and would be Heavily Discounted with tax breaks and such.

Children out of wedlock would be taken by the state and given to parents (married couples, m&m w&m or w&w) and you'd be fined for having them. Repeat offenders would be castrated.

Do you know how hard it is to get a date with a woman in her 20's and 30's that DOESN'T have kid/s?

You're gonna need to move to a Muslim country run by the caliphate to get what you want... Or at least part of it.

Originally Posted by azalea

I said that early in the thread, Nuckle, because the majority of those complaining about being treated, lately, as second class citizens are white men who as a group are obviously at the top of the power structure in Western society (whether it be culturally, administratively, economically or what-have-you). The long list of things you're being oppressed by also affect me in a profound way and my family have very little money. However minorities have that and much more to worry about, like some legislator coming along and invalidating their marriage, taking away or denying their rights to visit a partner, having the state taking more than a married couple would give up in inheritances, etc.

Is "minorities" a new code word for homosexuals and lesbians? Because I think what you just said pretty much only applies to them.

Originally Posted by Alundil

This would be as silly a statement; "is minority a new code word to describe.......Latinos?"
Uh, I guess since they fit in that group.

What if it is said in mexico?

Originally Posted by Nuckle

Still looking for an answer to this [...]

One of the more approachable explanations I've seen:

Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

Edit: This is a short read from a well-written blog. If you're interest, there are two followup blog entries. A short quote may entice:

I’ve been thinking of a way to explain to straight white men how life works for them, without invoking the dreaded word “privilege,” to which they react like vampires being fed a garlic tart at high noon. It’s not that the word “privilege” is incorrect, it’s that it’s not their word. When confronted with “privilege,” they fiddle with the word itself, and haul out the dictionaries and find every possible way to talk about the word but not any of the things the word signifies.

So, the challenge: how to get across the ideas bound up in the word “privilege,” in a way that your average straight white man will get, without freaking out about it?

Being a white guy who likes women, here’s how I would do it:

Cheers,


AetheLove

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Is "minorities" a new code word for homosexuals and lesbians? Because I think what you just said pretty much only applies to them.

In the context of this thread, same sex marriage in particular was the subject so I addressed that specifically.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

List of U.S. state constitutional amendments banning same-sex unions by type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 1994, the Colorado Supreme Court found the amendment unconstitutional.[2] In 1996, the U.S. Supreme Court held in Romer v. Evans that the amendment, because it "allows discrimination against homosexuals and prevents the state from protecting them", was "motivated by animus towards homosexuals" and violated their rights under the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.[3]

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

One major thing everyone is forgetting. Being married is not a right nor is it in the consitution.

Oh really? For a country full of people so convinced this country was founded on the Bible alone, and the Bible making marriage a very important thing, I'd go there and say marriage is quite a right to the average person.

Let's look at this from the other way; if you were to take away marriage from everyone, would it still be considered not a right? I guarantee you people would be crying foul about how we deserve marriage, the Bible says so, etc. If one group is allowed to do it, so should the other. It's called being equal. Your same argument was used back in the segregation era where blacks were provided schools and bathrooms, just not the "good" ones. I mean, we were allowing them to be them, but not to be quite equal to whites. And we all know how that ended.