The powder keg that is Egypt

**WickedTribe** · 08-19-13, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kanati8869

Well that just proves you haven't watched any of the beheading videos have you? Tell that to Nick Berg as a fine example of how wrong you are on that.

If you're going to count amateur jobs, then yeah, any method of death can be barbaric. I'd imagine that a professional beheading is pretty quick and painless.

**DJ Ms. White** · 08-19-13, 06:52 PM

Only if you don't use a French longswordsman. /chortles

**DJ Ms. White** · 08-19-13, 06:53 PM

Bloody Mary Bloody Mary Bloody Mary /looksinmirror

**deathgodusmc** · 08-19-13, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

If you're going to count amateur jobs, then yeah, any method of death can be barbaric. I'd imagine that a professional beheading is pretty quick and painless.

Even the pros say the brain can live up to 30 seconds. That cant feel good.

**-Lazarus-** · 08-19-13, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by iravedic

Okay Laz - you are now close to a cogent point. You have pointed out the most extreme versions of Sharia Law as the ones you take exception with, and frankly I really don't see anyone here advocating or supporting those types of punishments.

But you are still making a wild over generalization - those acts would not occur in the vast majority of Muslim countries. And the fact that those country's base these forms of punishment on their specific view of Islam does not mean that their's is the only, or right, interpretation of the Quran. Just like many here have pointed out, the Christian bible, depending how your personal belief system defines it, contains, proscribes or prohibits equally horrific punishments.

And I will note - many of the 'punishments' called for by others in this thread would make the VAST majority of Muslims worldwide cringe in horror.

Painting with a broad brush is never a wise move.

Name for me the list of Muslim countries completely under sharia law that doesn't prescribe hands or feet to be cut off for theft or adultery; or stoning for adultery. This should not take long.

**Morningfrost** · 08-19-13, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

WOW. Folks, this enemy is incredibly sophisticated. This is a propaganda war. I always used to be suspicious that this went on with regard to the Palestinian conflicts we see in the news, and now, I would not be surprised at all if it does.

Well, first off how do you know that video is actually being shot in the Middle East, rather than somewhere say....in America? What are the odds of actual Egyptians misspelling the name Morsi? Around the same as people misspelling Obama perhaps?

Also, that's not propaganda. THIS is propaganda.

http://boingboing.net/2013/02/05/u-s...korean-pr.html

~Morningfrost

**-Lazarus-** · 08-19-13, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by iravedic

Okay Laz - you are now close to a cogent point. You have pointed out the most extreme versions of Sharia Law as the ones you take exception with, and frankly I really don't see anyone here advocating or supporting those types of punishments.

But you are still making a wild over generalization - those acts would not occur in the vast majority of Muslim countries. And the fact that those country's base these forms of punishment on their specific view of Islam does not mean that their's is the only, or right, interpretation of the Quran. Just like many here have pointed out, the Christian bible, depending how your personal belief system defines it, contains, proscribes or prohibits equally horrific punishments.

And I will note - many of the 'punishments' called for by others in this thread would make the VAST majority of Muslims worldwide cringe in horror.

Painting with a broad brush is never a wise move.

Just read up. Nothing I said was "wild".

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

If a person converts to Islam, or is born and raised as a Muslim, then he or she will have full rights of citizenship in an Islamic state.
Leaving Islam is a sin and a religious crime. Once any man or woman is officially classified as Muslim, because of birth or religious conversion, he or she will be subject to the death penalty if he or she becomes an apostate, that is, abandons his or her faith in Islam in order to become an atheist, agnostic or to convert to another religion. Before executing the death penalty, Sharia demands that the individual be offered one chance to return back to Islam.
If a person has never been a Muslim, and is not a kafir (infidel, unbeliever), he or she can live in an Islamic state by accepting to be a dhimmi, or under a special permission called aman. As a dhimmi or under aman, he or she will suffer certain limitations of rights as a subject of an Islamic state, and will not enjoy complete legal equality with Muslims.
If a person has never been a Muslim, and is a kafir (infidel, unbeliever), Sharia demands that he or she should be offered the choice to convert to Islam and become a Muslim; if they reject the offer, he or she may either be killed, enslaved, or ransomed if captured.
According to Sharia theory, conversion of disbelievers and non-Muslims to Islam is encouraged as a religious duty for all Muslims, but leaving Islam (apostasy), expressing contempt for Islam (blasphemy), and religious conversion of Muslims is prohibited. Not all Islamic scholars agree with this interpretation of Sharia theory. In practice, as of 2011, 20 Islamic nations had laws declaring apostasy from Islam as illegal and a criminal offense. This is a violation of the freedom of thought, conscience and religion. In another 2013 report based on international survey of religious attitudes, more than 50% of Muslim population in 6 Islamic countries supported death penalty for any Muslim who leaves Islam (apostasy).

'Nuff said.

**Morningfrost** · 08-19-13, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Just read up. Nothing I said was "wild".

Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'Nuff said.

I read it on the internet, it must be true.

~Morningfrost

**deathgodusmc** · 08-19-13, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

I read it on the internet, it must be true.

~Morningfrost

And how is that much different then i read it in a book some where so it must be true? Im sorry but you guys are getting weaker and weaker arguments. It wasn't that long ago in i believe new york that this bullshit happened and they tried to say they are allowed to enact sharia law because of their religious faith. Hell there have been movements here about muslims being allowed to punish their own and jews have tries as well. So why is it so hard to believe they do this type of shit?

Jesus as soon as someone mentions the word muslim with a negative connotation the racist slurs come out and the you just dont understand it bullshit comes out. Like its hard to find thousands of examples of the brutality associated with it sharia law. I mean jesus christ there is an entire movement for womans rights over there because they get stoned for being raped. lol You guys are burying your head in the sand.