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    lol....just leave it alone Kanati. You won´t get anything good from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    Actually in a way, we are. Virtually every advancement in the medical field for the last 50 years has come from the United States. Here's a shocker - some of it can be expensive.

    What allowed that to happen? Some government mandating it? No. It was free enterprise and our system of government that allowed innovation to happen. Is the medical field the only field where this applies? Hardly.

    Every other major nation should be against Obamacare, because with it comes the death of medical innovation, just as it has in every other country with nationalized healthcare.
    You just make things up, eh? How's that working out for you?

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    He overstated but he isnt that far off base with his point. We lead the world in medical advancements and the popular opinion is once obama care kicks into full swing innovation will quickly come to a crawl.
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    John Kerry is a proven liar that has nothing but contempt for our country and our Armed Forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amador +JP2+ View Post
    John Kerry is a proven liar that has nothing but contempt for our country and our Armed Forces.

    Well the first part fits every politicians but im interested on where you get the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedTribe View Post
    You just make things up, eh? How's that working out for you?
    He starts lots of NPRandOHD threads, and lots of people respond to his posts here.

    So I guess it's working out pretty well.


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    Oral rehydration therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That one is disputable since numerous people were involved ranging from U.S., to India, to Bangladesh.

    X-ray computed tomography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The first commercially viable CT scanner was invented by Sir Godfrey Hounsfield in Hayes, United Kingdom, at EMI Central Research Laboratories using X-rays. Hounsfield conceived his idea in 1967.[65] The first EMI-Scanner was installed in Atkinson Morley Hospital in Wimbledon, England, and the first patient brain-scan was done on 1 October 1971.[66] It was publicly announced in 1972.
    Medical ultrasonography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Another one that is murky, According to the wiki there was uses of it at the Naval academy in the late 40s, the first measure of heart activity by Swedes, and the Scottish with the first diagnostic use. Oh and an Englishmen who moved to Minnesota considered the "father of the ultrasound."

    Magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Again, its murky. A Harvard student first wrote about the idea, a soviet originally tried to make a MRI machine, an American actually made one, an American created the first 2D and 3D (I think it said both) images, and an Englishman came up with the formula to make clearer images within seconds.

    Coronary artery bypass surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I think that one has one advance by an American, another by a Soviet doctor, though all the heart surgery stuff is giving me a headache.

    Robotic surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 1992, the PROBOT, developed at Imperial College London, was used to perform prostatic surgery by Dr. Senthil Nathan at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital, London. This was the first pure robotic surgery in the world.
    Granted the modern device used most was created by an American company.

    Face transplant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This one was mostly Europe and China.

    History of cancer chemotherapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    All U.S. but a lot of it (Granted I skimmed) was supported by the U.S. Government.

    Laparoscopic surgery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 1981, Semm, from the gynecological clinic of Kiel University, Germany, performed the first laparoscopic appendectomy.
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    Beta blocker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In 1962, Sir James W. Black found the first clinically significant beta blockers—propranolol and pronethalol; it revolutionized the medical management of angina pectoris and is considered by many to be one of the most important contributions to clinical medicine and pharmacology of the 20th century.
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    DNA profiling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The DNA profiling technique was first reported in 1984[3] by Sir Alec Jeffreys at the University of Leicester in England,[4] and is now the basis of several national DNA databases. Dr. Jeffreys's genetic fingerprinting was made commercially available in 1987, when a chemical company, Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), started a blood-testing centre in England.[5]
    I wouldn't be shocked if there was more, but this already took probably at least an hour, though got to learn quite a bit about medical history so suppose not all was lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc View Post
    He overstated but he isnt that far off base with his point. We lead the world in medical advancements and the popular opinion is once obama care kicks into full swing innovation will quickly come to a crawl.
    Why? Doctors will still be allowed to make as much money as they want, and have insurance companies to bill the shit out of. That right there is enough to speed up innovation, not slow it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2 View Post
    Why? Doctors will still be allowed to make as much money as they want, and have insurance companies to bill the shit out of. That right there is enough to speed up innovation, not slow it down.
    I dont remember the exact reasons listed. I just know what the theory was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    Actually in a way, we are. Virtually every advancement in the medical field for the last 50 years has come from the United States. Here's a shocker - some of it can be expensive.

    What allowed that to happen? Some government mandating it? No. It was free enterprise and our system of government that allowed innovation to happen. Is the medical field the only field where this applies? Hardly.

    Every other major nation should be against Obamacare, because with it comes the death of medical innovation, just as it has in every other country with nationalized healthcare.


    This is false.


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