Thread: How "America's Toughest Sheriff" handles bad behavior

Originally Posted by Warprosper

We have officers at my work who wear these body cams. The problem I have with them is the lack of control. Take for example dash cams.
Those systems are designed such that the camera system uploads the videos to a server as soon as the wireless receiver can be reached. For those who haven't seen those systems, look at the back of a cop car and you'll probably see a little black dome. That dome is the car's wireless transmitter. If you look around town you may see some square white boxes that look like large night lights. (those are receivers, sometimes located on premise or near traffic control boxes) Officers do not have access to the storage medium that houses these recordings. Also, these videos are housed on a server with a strict retention schedule and strict access controls. With the body cams, you take away all of that. With body cams it's simple to tamper with videos, delete videos, or copy and distribute. This leaves a huge problem with chain of custody and other important accreditation policies.

Can Cop-Worn Cameras Restore Faith In New Orleans Police? : All Tech Considered : NPR

Just make Policy to discipline Cops who Fail to record.

Also,
New Publication Available: The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force | Police Foundation
If you're into that whole Science thing....

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Can Cop-Worn Cameras Restore Faith In New Orleans Police? : All Tech Considered : NPR

Just make Policy to discipline Cops who Fail to record.

There's also a policy against police brutality..

I've read articles about the cameras lowering the rate of harassment and other things, but how exactly do they get that information? I'm not saying it doesn't lower the rate, I just find it hard to understand how they're getting their data without the assurance that body cam data hasn't been modified.

Originally Posted by Warprosper

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Also,
New Publication Available: The Effect of Body-Worn Cameras on Police Use-of-Force | Police Foundation
If you're into that whole Science thing....

There's also a policy against police brutality..

I've read articles about the cameras lowering the rate of harassment and other things, but how exactly do they get that information? I'm not saying it doesn't lower the rate, I just find it hard to understand how they're getting their data without the assurance that body cam data hasn't been modified.

Ah. It's policy. Or, it's not policy.

Lately I find that the word most strongly correlated to me wanting to smash someone right in their fucking face is "policy".

They have a policy against police brutality?

What did they have before?

"It's not our policy to do X."

What the FUCK does that even mean? A "policy" is like a fake, local, law that applies to the jurisdiction of Nowhere and therefore isn't really legally binding so that the people who make the "policy" can say that the matter is out of their hands except when they want it to be the other way and have no repercussions if they change their mind.

Was visiting my mother earlier this spring and she had a new furnace installed. She bought a new filter from Home Depot, but it was the wrong size (it was a Home Depot branded filter). I went to Home Depot to pick up some other things she needed, and took the filter to exchange it for a smaller one - it was unopened, still shrink-wrapped.

They asked if I had the receipt, which I did not. They asked me for ID, which made no sense to me but I pulled out my wallet and showed the guy my drivers license. The man started typing in numbers.

Me (pulling my wallet quickly away): What are you doing?

Him: I need to enter your license number.

Me: WHY?

Him: It's our policy.

Me: You can't have my state ID number. I don't want my name, address, and ID info in your database.

Him: I'm sorry, but it's our policy.

Me: The DMV and my Bank can have that. You can't have it. A cop who pulls me over can have it. You can't have it.

Him: It's our policy to require it for a return.

Me: I'm not giving it to you. Oh well, here - take the filter.

Him: I can't take your filter.

Me: I don't want it. It doesn't fit. Put it back on your self.

... and he starts going on about policy again, and telling me he needs my ID, and asking if I want to read their privacy policy (except he can't find a copy there, but I can read it online). I tell him the filter is worthless to me, that I'm not taking it with me when I go, that he can throw it in the trash if he doesn't want to put it back on the shelf, and that I can get one the right size just about anywhere.

And then, magically, he was then able to exchange it without recording any ID information.

WTF?

Fuck you, and fuck your policy. Do it or don't do it, but either way it's on you.


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Originally Posted by AetheLove

Ah. It's policy. Or, it's not policy.

"Lots of Text"

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That's the problem with "policy". You want to get really pissed off at the abuse of the word policy, have a look at this site. You'll find policies on everything from brutality to jaywalking. Resources | CALEA® You'll also find sample policies of body cams. Draft Law Enforcement Standard for Body Worn Cameras and Recording Devices | CALEA®

I hope some of the text in that link makes you laugh as much as it made me.

aint sheriff joe just some racist asshole?

This talks about the example I mentioned in the OP, it isn't the video just about it

http://m.wafb.com/#!/newsDetail/25571722

Here is one with the video
Video released in Eloy police shooting | azfamily.com Phoenix