Thread: How "America's Toughest Sheriff" handles bad behavior

Apparently ban capturing it in the first place, good work Joe.

MCSO issues policy change after finding secret recordings at home of ex-deputy Ramon Armendariz - ABC15 Arizona

PHOENIX - The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office is issuing a new policy to its deputies: they can no longer wear body cameras, and if they have one, they must turn over any video they captured during traffic stops.

The new policy was issued after they searched Deputy Ramon Armendariz's home and found more than 500 disks with thousands of recorded traffic stops dating back seven years.

The officer(s) shouldn't be keeping the video, that much I'd heavily agree with. How does banning body cameras help anything other then try to hide evidence in the future though? They'll have dash cams (supposedly as a judge ordered it) but this seems like saying the problem is the officers, it's the fact they can get caught...by their own recording devices.

It is interesting too, as it was maybe a week or two ago a body camera (I think it was body) was pretty damn useful in a shooting incident in another county.

Big Fat SO WHAT?

This is all hubalajoo to get Body Cameras off Cops in Maricopa. Someone needs to Boot Joe, and quick.
Body Cameras only do good, Unless you're a Corrupt cop. And So what if this guy had HIS traffic stops on Record. Who the fuck cares?
What harm was he doing with them?

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Big Fat SO WHAT?

This is all hubalajoo to get Body Cameras off Cops in Maricopa. Someone needs to Boot Joe, and quick.
Body Cameras only do good, Unless you're a Corrupt cop. And So what if this guy had HIS traffic stops on Record. Who the fuck cares?
What harm was he doing with them?

Or better yet, Why wasn't a database provided for ALL of the cops to house their traffic stops? Seems to me that if I were a cop, I would want to record my interactions with the public in case some whack-job tried to make false accusations and/or sue me. The department should be collecting that data for the same reason. To protect everyone, including the whack-job.

Originally Posted by dex71

Or better yet, Why wasn't a database provided for ALL of the cops to house their traffic stops? Seems to me that if I were a cop, I would want to record my interactions with the public in case some whack-job tried to make false accusations and/or sue me. The department should be collecting that data for the same reason. To protect everyone, including the whack-job.

exactly. This Screams "made up story" to provide reason to get rid of Cameras "so racial Profiling could continue"

I think the problem is that video evidence was collected but not documented as police evidence. It is easier to ban cameras to avoid the issue. It may be an issue of they dont have a process for data logging it right now. You have different officers using different cameras with different formats, I could see that being a pain.

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Originally Posted by flame

I think the problem is that video evidence was collected but not documented as police evidence. It is easier to ban cameras to avoid the issue. It may be an issue of they dont have a process for data logging it right now. You have different officers using different cameras with different formats, I could see that being a pain.

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Maybe, but Quite a Few municipalities are Mandating Body Cameras. They Only help. I know Cops who keep Personal log books, What's the difference, besides format? What happens When Cops start wearing Google Glass?

Why?
The cops are not getting the tools they need to do the best job possible. If the department protects itself from just one lawsuit ( and thus protecting the taxpayers who would ultimately get the bill), all of the cameras have paid for themselves. Since a cop can be sued personally, it would be an incredibly wise decision for them to get a body camera for themselves. I know
I would have one.


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We have officers at my work who wear these body cams. The problem I have with them is the lack of control. Take for example dash cams.
Those systems are designed such that the camera system uploads the videos to a server as soon as the wireless receiver can be reached. For those who haven't seen those systems, look at the back of a cop car and you'll probably see a little black dome. That dome is the car's wireless transmitter. If you look around town you may see some square white boxes that look like large night lights. (those are receivers, sometimes located on premise or near traffic control boxes) Officers do not have access to the storage medium that houses these recordings. Also, these videos are housed on a server with a strict retention schedule and strict access controls. With the body cams, you take away all of that. With body cams it's simple to tamper with videos, delete videos, or copy and distribute. This leaves a huge problem with chain of custody and other important accreditation policies.