Thread: Student Loans Good or Bad?

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

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Well that is in part because people pay a shitton of money to ATTEND college. You obviously are going to want a return on investment are you not? So if the premise is changed the result will be completely different.

We only need so many business degrees and doctors? I agree. What DO we need? I don´t think we need more UNeducated people, if that´s what you´re implying (I don´t think you are).

The more efficient the workforce becomes, the businesses hiring will consequently be more efficient in their operation and every other financial indicator you might think of will undoubtedly improve and macro-economically, the country grows.

Come on up and ask around mcd's for how many have a college degree.

They knowing going into it college is expensive. Along with that they should do some research on what a job typically pays. Then maybe take a look at the market. That piece of paper never said you will make more money. I still remember my college success class where i showed up in my construction shirt and he decided to have a conversation on how much more money you make with a degree then without one. His mistake was asking if i mind sharing how much i make as an example. It was a good year and i killed his argument.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

As current events have shown a higher educated workforce means college educated salting fries at mcd's. The problem with a college education is the feeling of being entitled to earning a butt load of cash but that will never be reality. We only need so many business degrees and doctors. Once you hit the mark pay rates come down. So you're not cutting costs you're cutting your own throat.

With that said, while those jobs need to be filled either way, like you said there is a supply and demand for certain careers.

The major problem with education is a lack of direction and being far too general. As an engineer currently, I would have benefited from a technical writing course in high school, but instead they force me take a traditional English course or creative writing.

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

Well yes, they know it´s expensive so, logically, they´ll want to have a proper return on their investment for that "piece of paper" you´re alluding to. But I´ve already said the exact same thing in my previous post. My point is what if it weren´t expensive at all? Change the premise.

In business, the only things that are expensive are the ones that don´t give you a proper return. That directly applies to the workforce as well.

Doesn´t Germany have that education system? I´m gonna google that but I´m pretty sure college is free over there.

FREE EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE!! wooohooo

A free college degree would be a complete waste. Every moron out there can take the class and eventually pass flooding the job market with college educated retards. Which would still end up at mcd's. I would take issue with your claim that the only expensive things are the ones that dont have a proper return. A 40 k terminator is still expensive even if i run it every day.

Originally Posted by reject_wolf

With that said, while those jobs need to be filled either way, like you said there is a supply and demand for certain careers.

The major problem with education is a lack of direction and being far too general. As an engineer currently, I would have benefited from a technical writing course in high school, but instead they force me take a traditional English course or creative writing.

Agreed. I saw no point in me needed to take a second language. I have no interest in any other language because everyone pretty much gets what you're say when you flip the bird and say fuck you. All the nonsense classes should not be there. When in grade school i get it but after that there should be no required classes that do not directly lead to your focus of study.

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

I think you underestimate college education. I completely disagree with you.

About what´s expensive or isn´t, I´ll give you an example: You buy a machine for $3,000 dollars and it generates $0.05 a month in revenue. You buy a machine for $5,000 and it produces $50k a month in revenue. Which one is more expensive for your business?

I think you over value a college education. So i completely disagree with you.

Not every business gets to buy a machine based on what it produces in a month. Some machine are needed simply to get a job done not run continuously for a month.