Saw this... thought about some people i know....

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Let's just take land from law abiding American citizens, so we can build these places to provide a better life for trespassers.

and the point of this would be to reduce illegal immigration and create a plausible way to integrate these people that will otherwise slip through the cracks. They´ll get in some way or another, or die trying...and it will keep costing us money...why not get something out of it instead? Halfway communities funded by international entities, managed by NPO´s ...make them produce something, I don´t know...farming or manufacturing or something for American companies. Put these people to work instead of keeping them for a certain period of time and then paying their ticket back to wherever they come from...no benefit

I´m looking at it as the $$$$ point of view.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-21-14, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

No I haven´t...it´s pretty long though, yea?

Yup its like 2k miles long. That being said you may want to look into its other dimensions and topography.

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 02:52 PM

Well I´m just throwing out ideas here...I think it´s better to put these people to work than to hold them indefinitely and feed them and shelter them while we wait for the order to ship them back, all expenses paid.

**CivilWars** · 07-21-14, 02:55 PM

1. Why do we need to hold them for any period of time? Caught today, and put on a bus tomorrow headed back across the bridge.
2. I do not own land on the border, but I have visited for work. Yes, the people who own the land use it for farm and ranch land. Regardless of whether they "use" it or not I am not a proponent of taking land that someone owns to provide a refuge for people who are entering the country illegally. People keep coming because they know that we, the American citizens, will provide for them once they arrive. Change that perspective, crack down on illegal immigration, and we slow the problem without spending American dollars on it. If these other countries had money to put on these programs they would be providing these services in their own countries so that people wouldn't need to come to America for the training you mention.
3. Most people don't have the stomach for it, but the cheapest solution is already paid for. DHS has already bought millions of rounds of ammo.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-21-14, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

Well I´m just throwing out ideas here...I think it´s better to put these people to work than to hold them indefinitely and feed them and shelter them while we wait for the order to ship them back, all expenses paid.

LOL whats our unemployment rate right now? And you want to just let every body come on in AND give them a job? Thats your idea your just throwing out there? I have a cheaper one that is actually feasible. Everyone gets a hammer to the head. At least thats a quick end instead starving every one slowly. I guess that would make it more humane.

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

1. Why do we need to hold them for any period of time? Caught today, and put on a bus tomorrow headed back across the bridge.
2. I do not own land on the border, but I have visited for work. Yes, the people who own the land use it for farm and ranch land. Regardless of whether they "use" it or not I am not a proponent of taking land that someone owns to provide a refuge for people who are entering the country illegally. People keep coming because they know that we, the American citizens, will provide for them once they arrive. Change that perspective, crack down on illegal immigration, and we slow the problem without spending American dollars on it. If these other countries had money to put on these programs they would be providing these services in their own countries so that people wouldn't need to come to America for the training you mention.
3. Most people don't have the stomach for it, but the cheapest solution is already paid for. DHS has already bought millions of rounds of ammo.

No one´s talking about TAKING land from anyone....buy it from people if they want to sell....if they don´t then there´s nothing to be done there.
Sure, how are you going to "crack down" on immigration for free?

and 3. Don´t be ridiculous.

**dex71** · 07-21-14, 03:19 PM

If all of the decent, hard working folks who want a better life are leaving their respective countries to do so, who will be left to improve their countries? Or are we to expect the greater part of South America to blow ass forever, and be a continuous stream of people moving North, while being part of the problem?

I'm with Civil.....We need to make the US INCREDIBLY tough to live in illegally, not easier. We are spending billions every year healing, feeding, clothing, training, educating, and prosecuting illeagal alians. Plus, in a post 9/11 World, we need to know EXACTLY who is coming in, what their background is (as-in no criminals), and what their health is like (we don't need Ebola coming in). In order to effectively do all of this, we need to make legal immagration faster and cheaper, and make illeagal immagration MUCH tougher and much more costly, if not impossible.

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 03:19 PM

Have I said anything about paying the people at the border?

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

We are spending billions every year healing, feeding, clothing, training, educating, and prosecuting illeagal alians. Plus, in a post 9/11 World, we need to know EXACTLY who is coming in, what their background is (as-in no criminals), and what their health is like (we don't need Ebola coming in).

That´s precisely the point of building these GHETTOS or halfway houses at the border.

**Xavsnipe** · 07-21-14, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

If all of the decent, hard working folks who want a better life are leaving their respective countries to do so, who will be left to improve their countries? Or are we to expect the greater part of South America to blow ass forever, and be a continuous stream of people moving North, while being part of the problem?

Do you have ANY idea why these people are looking to cross the border? Buddy...I personally know people that have crossed the Rio Grande..and not just a couple of people...a couple dozen maybe. They´re not felons, or rapists or serial killers. They´re normal working people living their lives in constant threat of death and are simply looking for better living conditions. These are the people I KNOW personally that have made the trip.