Thread: Well, that's a conflict of interest

Originally Posted by grayman

Potentially. I understood the piece to be a social commentary on the folly of the heroes. That they were too blinded by greed to see and act upon the good science of the anthropogenic induced warming.

Well done. That's one way it plays out.

Bigger picture: the people I hear making the biggest noise are also the ones with the most conflicted interests. That's not scientists, or even scientists who get huge money from the petroleum industry. It's people who need to get votes, and people who need to get ratings, and people who need to show a bump in quarterly or year-over-year profits. All of those motivations have very short time horizons, rely heavily on belief and fashion (at the expense of facts or science), and have no accountability to the future.

I want people who wield power to also have accountability. I want them to prove their position by marking their beliefs to market. It's not that they're engaged in (as you well put it) folly. It may or may not be folly (and we all have our own positions on that). It's that they're making a lot of noise, and wielding a lot of power, with no particular downside. The point of the monument isn't to embarrass, the point is that if what they say is right then they win! ... and if what they say is wrong, they lose.

Put the fuck up, or shut the fuck up.


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Originally Posted by AetheLove

Speaking of fantasy...

I have a little fantasy art project.

I want to have a large granite (or maybe basalt, or perhaps obsidian) monument made.

I'm thinking 'obelisk', but I'm open to other ideas. It will be a monument to all the heroes in business, media, and government who fought the good fight against all the scientist nut-jobs who have been trying (since, as far as I can tell, the 1960s) to poison our minds with this nonsense about anthropogenic climate change.

The names of these heroes will be carved into the stone. This list - The Roll Of The Righteous - will serve as a reminder to future generations that speaking out against 'theory' is a virtue unto itself; and so that the names of those who denounced and fought against this misguided pseudo-science will be remembered by those who come after.

Those who have exhibited the greatest bravery will have their names carved in the largest letters, along with their most heroic quote, closest to the base in the section of the monument I call "The Foundation Of Righteousness."

The monument will be erected on a submerged base such that the names of the Most Righteous are just above the high-tide mark - their heads forever above water, surveying a sea that will never rise - so that future generations can visit the monument, contemplate the delicate balance that history uses to judge us all, and hopefully understand the lesson that these leaders have taught us.

I'm currently considering locations. Initially I was thinking Chesapeake Bay so that there could be convenient excursions from the Potomac. There are a few very low islands in the Bay that would make for excellent viewing. But I suppose that the ocean isn't very worried about our convenience, so if there are other location ideas I'd be happy to hear them.

I think this monument will pay for itself. The Righteous themselves will surely be lining up to help fund their immortality. I think they'll be eager that we all remember who they were and what they said.

Cheers,


AethLove

The first problem you're gonna have is going back to the 60's and finding scientists talking about climate change because at that time it was global cooling. Then when that failed it became global warming and when that failed they went with climate change. That way they're right regardless of which way it goes.

Originally Posted by grayman

Goodness me.
First, name calling is silly, I'm not conservative.
Second, I'm not conservative in anyway shape or form. I'm actually a card toting member of the Green Party.
Third, I'm glad you can use the Internet for something other than porn.
Fourth, this is the ONLY link you've provided thus far so shut your hole.

Wait there's more then porn on here?

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Wait, the burden is on me to prove you wrong? LOL, kids these days..... You brought this as some sort of point proving evidence, can you show me no, the scientists that this has anything to do with anything other than yearly conditions as stated by the websites purpose?

The burden is on me, because you have arbitrarily pulled some fact from some website, about yearly ice levels in antarctica, and you try and say it somehow proves climate change is a bunch of hooey.

This is not what this topic is about, but good strawman, or herring or troll. I applaud.

Also, I said your talk show radio producer was conservative, not you. but read what you want I guess.

No its on you because you keep saying things like...

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Don't bother to reply. This is not a discussion.

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

It's not about whether the explanation can live up to your opinion, Its whether or not it can live up to your conservative radio talk show producers pocket book.....

If you're going to set terms like that then all the burden falls on you son.