Thread: Health Care Reform Fight Shifts From Congress to the Courts

And the problem with that is what?

Can you find a state in the union that doesn't have access to credit cards?

And, are you talking about safe havens in terms of where a corporation is filed for residence? Because it won't matter where you are filed, if you're doing steady business in any state. People in florida can sue NY insurance companies in florida, in state court.

If a company is taking advantage, or price gouging, or doing _____ that is illegal...we have existing laws and courts for this kind of stuff.

or is the answer to everything making a new law?

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Sore losers.

right.....who won again?

senate bill has no public option or federally subsidized plan. and now no funding for abortion-related care. and whole piles of other crap the right stuck to.

Might want to read that bill. Democrats can call it a "win"....but calling it a win, and winning are a bit different, right?

Our society as a whole, won.

I agree that this bill doesn't go far enough but it took a big step in the right direction. I firmly believe that this is only the beginning of real reform, now that everyone has skin in the game.

Something else I found very interesting, Pelosi pointed out that by having almost universal health coverage, people looking to switch jobs or start their own business won't be tied down to a choice of giving up coverage or not.

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

And the problem with that is what?

Can you find a state in the union that doesn't have access to credit cards?

And, are you talking about safe havens in terms of where a corporation is filed for residence? Because it won't matter where you are filed, if you're doing steady business in any state. People in florida can sue NY insurance companies in florida, in state court.

If a company is taking advantage, or price gouging, or doing _____ that is illegal...we have existing laws and courts for this kind of stuff.

or is the answer to everything making a new law?

The problem is the CC companies are only bound by the state laws where they are based, regardless of where the person holding the CC lives. This was the cheap way around usury laws found in some states. Marquette vs. First Omaha Service Corp. is the Supreme Court case law behind this.
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020814f.asp
Insurance companies would do the same thing, basing themselves in the state with the lowest (or even no) limits on healthcare if not bound by federal law.
To keep going on the credit card comparison, no, there aren't any states that don't have access to credit cards. Unfortunately, there are people in states with strict usury laws that have been abused by the credit card companies with enormous interest rate increases that are often "hidden" if a person doesn't closely examine their monthly statement. Is it a problem that the consumer isn't informed? Yes, but the companies use as many tricks as possible to keep the consumer uninformed. I see this as keeping the companies "honest" towards the consumer.

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Sore losers.

right.....who won again?

Apparently not the status quo, or those that want to uphold it....

Who is the status quo Hawg? Who determines the status quo?