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    Laws/procedures are never wrong and we should just agree with them.....

    If that was the case how would we ever bring about change? Then you should be agreeing with all of Obama's procedures because that is they way the law is written.....at the time.

    This thread is not about every law and procedure but just this one situation on the border involving a teen.


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    going in right now.


    Jason, are we arguing if the agent was wrong or right? Because by law, he was right....by your standards...he was wrong..


    but that doesnt matter....The law is the law, this people know no different, they are trained to uphold it at all times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_jinx View Post
    Laws/procedures are never wrong and we should just agree with them.....

    If that was the case how would we ever bring about change? Then you should be agreeing with all of Obama's procedures because that is they way the law is written.....at the time.

    This thread is not about every law and procedure but just this one situation on the border involving a teen.


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    Well. As I see it while a law is in place you should follow it while still fighting to get it repealed in the meantime if you feel that way.

    So if there's a law that says it's okay to throw hamburgers at people, and I throw a hamburger at someone, I shouldn't get in trouble, because the law said it's okay. However, people who disagree with the law are free to fight to get the law removed, in which case it would no longer be a law, and I would not be able to throw hamburgers at people anymore without getting in trouble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fovezer View Post
    Well, I know he was shooting at the kid. I meant it was a lucky shot that he hit him in the head. It would definitely have been more irresponsible for him to shoot anywhere else. And sure, riot police have more protection, but they are also facing a lot more people and a lot more rocks. They still don't shoot live rounds. And this agent was facing one kid who was on the other side of the riverbed throwing rocks. He was stupid, yes, but it's not like he was throwing boulders or trying to bash the agents head in with a rock. He was grabbing them off the ground and throwing them.



    Hey, we are not talking about protests all over the world, we are talking about in the U.S. We should hold Americans to American standards, not to Iranian standards. How other countries react to protests is irrelevant to this thread. If force was necessary, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I feel this is pretty clearly excessive force.
    You cant be serious. What reason would he have to pick up those rocks and throw them if it isnt personal harm to the idividual they are being throw at? Why do you think it takes a boulder to bash a guys head in? It can be a normal ass size rock that kills someone.

    Roit police dont use live rounds because they are sent out with non lethal rounds but even in extreme circumstances live round can be used. They are equiped to deal with people in a non lethal means. This border patrol agent even with the piss poor quality of the video is obvious not equiped to deal with it.

    Why do you continue to try and make an arguement where there isnt one? Roit gear has no relivance to what has happened. Instead of trying to poke holes in it why not give actual examples as to how he could have dealt with the situation with the resources he has available to him when it happened. What ifs arent worth shit. I gave you everything he could have with him at the time and why he had no choice but to use his side arm. Come up with another way and its worth talking about but leave the whole letting himself and the detainee getting stoned to death out of it. None of us in that situation would let people continue to try and cause us bodily harm so why the hell should any of us exspect him to.
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    Agent Rosas (R.I.P.), was outnumbered while patroling alone. Assaulted, and shot in the head with his own weapon. Possibly knocked out by a rock to the head.

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    We do not reason or negotiate with criminals..We will ask you, we will tell you, and then if you dont comply we will make you...

    I dont know the exact details as to how the recent shooting went down. I can however tell you that there is a very slight possibility that the agent made a mistake. But that is for the (and I stress), NON BORDER PATROL investigators to decide.

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    agreed yung...

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    THATS HOW YOU DEBATE!!!









    Every post you made was well thought out fox, I applaud you. I would find it hard for anyone to argue the points you have made. Kudos my friend...
    Thanks Kraker Jak. All I want to add is, I rest my case, I think I got my point across.

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    The real question is, if you were the border patrol agent and these illegals (I generally refer to them as that, because can you honestly determine if it is an adult or a child from that view distance) are throwing rocks at you, would you fire on them with your firearm? I doubt many of you are ever in a confrontation that is elevated to that level on a daily basis. With the exception of our members who are law enforcement or actively serving in the military, navy, airforce, etc. I would strongly argue that many of you would not even know what it's like to be in that situation. It's easy to talk big like this when the biggest threat you face daily is more along the lines of vying for a parking spot at work.
    So you are asking if someone/some people threw rocks at me from quite a distance, would I shoot at them? No. I wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawgballs View Post
    So you are asking if someone/some people threw rocks at me from quite a distance, would I shoot at them? No. I wouldn't.
    Easy to say without the rocks. lol

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    Guyver, I think that was the joke You missed it...
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