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    I hope the History channel is not considered too bias, but here is just one example of desperate times and desperate measures.

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...ions-railroads

    Eight months after the United States enters World War I on behalf of the Allies, President Woodrow Wilson announces the nationalization of a large majority of the country s railroads under the Federal Possession and Control Act.

    The U.S. entry into the war in April 1917 coincided with a downturn in the fortunes of the nation s railroads: rising taxes and operations costs, combined with prices that were fixed by law, had pushed many railroad companies into receivership as early as late 1915. A year later, in a last-minute bill passed through Congress, Wilson had forced the railroad management to accept union demands for an eight-hour work day. Still, many skilled workers were leaving the cash-poor railroads to work in the booming armaments industry or to enlist in the war effort.

    By the end of 1917, it seemed that the existing railroad system was not up to the task of supporting the war effort and Wilson decided on nationalization. Two days after his announcement, the United States Railroad Administration (USRA) seized control. William McAdoo, Wilson s secretary of the treasury, was appointed Director General of Railroads. The railroads were subsequently divided into three divisions?East, West and South. Passenger services were streamlined, eliminating a significant amount of inessential travel. Over 100,000 new railroad cars and 1,930 steam engines were ordered--designed to the latest standards--at a total cost of $380 million.

    In March 1918, the Railroad Control Act was passed into law. It stated that within 21 months of a peace treaty, the railroads would be returned by the government to their owners and that the latter would be compensated for the usage of their property. Consequently, the USRA was disbanded two years later, in March 1920, and the railroads became private property once again.


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    Interesting post, Civil. I think in situations where it's vital to the national interest, it should be done. Obviously a decision like this needs to be made on a case by case basis. The provision for re-privatising the company is key to using this power effectively.

    For those interested in text of the Railway Control Act, it can be found here.

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/...controlact.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by deathgodusmc View Post
    http://www.noemailtax.com/

    http://news.cnet.com/Senators-seek-W...3-5814309.html

    The second link may end all of your guys sex life. The begining of the end.
    I don't see anything referring to government officials seeking a tax on emails which Cleric VAGUELY alluded to.

    There discussion of a bill preventing the taxation or a moratorium on taxation, but I can find no talk of an email taxation.

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    I have heard nothing of a tax and find it hard to believe. I am just not a fan of government control and that includes the internet.

    To answer the how to shut it down question. What I heard on the radio is that they would force all the ISP etc to comply or issue fines. Not sure what comply means.

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    So.... Canadian and Hawg were Site Banned?

    Hmm.. Guess so.
    Last edited by Toker; 06-24-10 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Answered my own question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toker View Post
    So.... Canadian and Hawg were Site Banned?

    Hmm.. Guess so.
    Hawg's was unrelated to what was posted/edited in this thread. No idea on Canadian's though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toker View Post
    So.... Canadian and Hawg were Site Banned?

    Hmm.. Guess so.
    Hey Toker is your question relevant to this thread or are you intentionally thread jacking ? ? ? ?

    Don't answer it here in this thread though, take it to a pm or start another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005 View Post
    I don't see anything referring to government officials seeking a tax on emails which Cleric VAGUELY alluded to.

    There discussion of a bill preventing the taxation or a moratorium on taxation, but I can find no talk of an email taxation.
    I was just supplying some info for the bill. Outside of that dont know who he was reffering to.

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    Oh nothing is going to happen. If they shut of the internet for even just one hour, the US economy as we know it would crumble. Something awful would have to be going on before they pulled this lever. Something like the fire sale in Die Hard 4, where all of America was being taken over by a bunch of hackers... then, they shut it down.

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