Democratic Strategist, James Carville's firm's poll reports that.....

**~~hawgballs~~** · 07-19-10, 01:01 PM

Funny how "you dont feel what a president has done for approximately 8 years" until the Reagan era economics is brought brought up, and then all bets are off........ and it was immediate Reagan impact.

BTW, Clinton didn't distract with a blow-job, all he did was receive one. It was the holier-than-thou hypocrite republican congress that spent all of the time and money pointing at Clinton's dick as if it were the end of the world.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-19-10, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Not with Clinton.

5.7 trillion doesn't qualify as massive debt? Sure he brought it down some but i wouldnt say he not with clinton. Personally i blame clinton for the economy crashing with the policies he put in place but that could be just me.

**DJ Ms. White** · 07-19-10, 01:03 PM

The original star wars was a failed project that wasted money. It's current iteration has no bearing on that.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-19-10, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Funny how "you dont feel what a president has done for approximately 8 years" until the Reagan era economics is brought brought up, and then all bets are off........ and it was immediate Reagan impact.

BTW, Clinton didn't distract with a blow-job, all he did was receive one. It was the holier-than-thou hypocrite republican congress that spent all of the time and money pointing at Clinton's dick as if it were the end of the world.

I didnt say i feel that way. I said that is what they say on average. No it was both and im not going to argue one is better then the other because there were all pieces of shit.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-19-10, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. White

The original star wars was a failed project that wasted money. It's current iteration has no bearing on that.

If you say so but im going to give the credit to where it belongs just like the company did that developed it.

**Alundil** · 07-19-10, 01:13 PM

Just out of curiosity (legit question here), How much of the surplus under Clinton's terms was/is attributable to some of the budgetary shifts that his White House made? Things like shifting items that had been federally budgeted onto states' budgets (reduce federal assistance to assisted housing and putting more of that on the municipalities).

I'd also caution that the whole Clinton Surplus discussion is a lost cause. Since no one agrees with anyone's figures on that anyway (a lot like other figures).

* Edit Begins*

It becomes interesting to look at the numbers directly from the Treasury Department and compare the dollar amounts in "Debt Held by Public" as opposed to "Intra-Governmental Holdings" (add those two to get the "Total Public Debt Outstanding").

**Red_Lizard2** · 07-19-10, 01:26 PM

Hmm I didn't realize Regan rode into the USSR and saved all the suffering people from the Commies, single handily ending the cold war *rolls eyes*

**~~hawgballs~~** · 07-19-10, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

Hmm I didn't realize Regan rode into the USSR and saved all the suffering people from the Commies, single handily ending the cold war *rolls eyes*

Don't forget when he farted and knocked down the Berlin Wall and single handedly drove the commies from Grenada with his wit and charm.

Don't forget the highly successful War on Drugs that he initiated, thank Science it didn't turn into a money burning furnace of waste and incompetence.....

**deathgodusmc** · 07-19-10, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

Hmm I didn't realize Regan rode into the USSR and saved all the suffering people from the Commies, single handily ending the cold war *rolls eyes*

No he did by talking just like he almost brought the nuclear arms race to its knees but him and gorbichov good not agree on one final detail. *rolls eyes*