Thread: Why is race a factor?

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Rofl, you want to argue history? But support gay marriage?.....ugh....

What the hell does studying history have to do with supporting gay marriage?! Like all your posts, this makes no sense. I'd lay off the glue for a while, if I were you...

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Fov,

I don't disagree with the fact that there are less opportunities in the majority of cases for African Americans to learn to swim, but I wonder if it is the chicken, or the egg. Do they not learn to swim because there are no pools, or are the no pools because they don't really care to swim. I don't know the answer to this, and am not trying to imply that I do, but just asking if there is more than one reason for the problem.

I posted this link a few pages back, and it's an interesting read: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=90213675

I'd say in this case, the egg definitely came before the chicken. Blacks were never afforded the same opportunities in the past, so there was never a demand or need for swimming pools in minority-rich areas. Since they were never given the same opportunities as whites to begin with, it's impossible to say if they would be equivolant to whites in the number of people who can swim or if the numbers would still be higher among minorities.

Originally Posted by Walkerxes

Homosexuality has been around longer than there have been whores.

Bullshit

Originally Posted by Fovezer

No, it's not that simple. Don't be naive. If it were that simple, we wouldn't see the disparity we see today. They don't have as much access to pools, they don't generally live by the water, therefore they don't have a need to learn. No one is saying they shouldn't or can't learn, we are just explaining WHY they don't.

Naive? Who is being naive? Your giving what you think and i gave you what i know as fact from the very race being discussed. I already stated in the thread the pool issue.

Who's blaming anyone?! Why do so many people all of a sudden have reading comprehension problems? I mean, it's not difficult to read and understand what I post, even if you disagree. At least make the effort to get it right. I'm not blaming anyone today for the disparity we see today. It's not the fault of anyone alive today. People ask WHY that disparity exists today, and I explained it in an historical and sociological context. I'm not going to whitewash history like you want. It's not about blame, but you have to understand history if you want to understand the present. I'm sick of my position getting taken out of context.

This entire thread has gone from blacks cant swim to the white man has beaten them down with slavery as a reason for them not being able to swim.

I think your confussed as to who has the reading comprehension problem. It's either that or you skimmed the thread and now think you know what everyone said. I made a general comment about people always wanting to blame someone for every issue and somehow you turned it into me saying your blaming someone. Reading comprehension?

It you don't want to have a scientific discussion and prefer simplistic and ignorant conclusions, like "durrr, they just don't wanna learn", based on nothing more than your feelings, then I am not going to bother to continue with this. No one has tried to seriously refute anything I said and provided evidence for.

I actually wish you wouldn't continue because you simply do not read the posts appearntly. Take your emotions out of the discussion. They serve no purpose but to skew the facts. I did not say that i felt they dont swim because they dont want to learn. I said all the black guys i know gave the reasons i stated. So i guess im gonna go with what the black guy tells me over some young white kid. Call me crazy but for some reason it makes sense to go that route. I guess that would all fall under reading comprehension as well huh.

The reality is there are more white kids then black kids that cant swim numerically. Yes percentage wise blacks have a higher rate of about 60%. Whites have about 31% that cant swim. However their are twice as many whites at 77% then there are blacks at 34%. So in all actuallity there are more whites that cant swim then blacks. So who do we blame for that? I know we should blame england or how about that fucker driving the boat on the way here? This is just stupid. If people want to learn to swim they will if they dont guess what they wont. That is simple and yes it is that easy. You can try to blame whatever you want but in reality your taking a stab in the dark with your best guess of which means shit in reality.

Context? What is that?

Originally Posted by Hitch

Anybody have the percentage of civilian, non-law enforcement government jobs held by what percentage of all races? Include law enforcement if it can be figured in a well.

If that stat can be found, next question is are the percentages representative of the population?

Just curious,

Hitch

Do you want that to count all construction personel working on government contracts?