Why is race a factor?

**Kraker Jak** · 08-03-10, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

If anyone should be site banned it should be the the idiot editor's who allowed those reports to run with the racial implications. All that needed to be reported was the tragedy and the fact that parents need to be responsible it doesn't matter if your purple striped Martian if the parents knew the kids couldn't swim then the parent failed not society.

amen

**Watsyurdeal?** · 08-03-10, 07:48 PM

Someone not being able to swim is something you can't blame on race, it's kinda like saying that White guy couldn't jump that fence cause he's white and not Mexican. See? Doesn't that sound like the most stupidest shit you ever heard?

People make race a factor, in reality it never was in the first place. Put your prejudices aside in this day and age so we can progress further as a species.

**Fovezer** · 08-03-10, 08:09 PM

I'm sorry I don't share the same faux outrage as many here. For people who claim we shouldn't focus on race, you seem to focus on it an awful lot. I don't see how pointing out a fact that minorities aren't as good swimmers, and therefore more likely to drown, is "focusing on race." There are reasons why minorities are not as good of swimmers, and to discuss those reasons is not "focusing on race," but to help understand WHY that is the case and to help correct it.

Here is another, much more in-depth story documenting the issue: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=90213675 I suggest you read it in its entirety to better understand how complaining about access to pools and that it is viewed as a "white" recreation is based on history, and not just some made-up belief. What a pointless thread...

**deathgodusmc** · 08-03-10, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Arreo

I seem to remember someone getting site banned for discussing this exact same subject.... be careful how you word things.

That would be me. Not quite the same thing though. Even though i had proof i was correct on what was being discussed it was still a site ban for being racist.

**deathgodusmc** · 08-03-10, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Watsyurdeal?

Someone not being able to swim is something you can't blame on race, it's kinda like saying that White guy couldn't jump that fence cause he's white and not Mexican. See? Doesn't that sound like the most stupidest shit you ever heard?

People make race a factor, in reality it never was in the first place. Put your prejudices aside in this day and age so we can progress further as a species.

The reason they seperate it by race is availability to learn how to swim. Not as many pools downtown as there are in the suburbs.

**Arreo** · 08-03-10, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

The reason they seperate it by race is availability to learn how to swim. Not as many pools downtown as there are in the suburbs.

But that isn't race, that's socioeconomic class differences. Why isn't it reported as "poor kids are 3x more likely to drown as rich kids". Because I'm pretty sure that is a more accurate way of describing it.

**THATriggerHappy** · 08-03-10, 08:50 PM

Race is a factor in some areas and needs to be. People need to know if they are more prone to certain health problem example skin disease because of their race so they can compensate.

**deathgodusmc** · 08-03-10, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Arreo

But that isn't race, that's socioeconomic class differences. Why isn't it reported as "poor kids are 3x more likely to drown as rich kids". Because I'm pretty sure that is a more accurate way of describing it.

Your right it is social i would elaborate but im not trying to get banned of some stupid shit again.

**deathgodusmc** · 08-03-10, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by THATriggerHappy

Race is a factor in some areas and needs to be. People need to know if they are more prone to certain health problem example skin disease because of their race so they can compensate.

That would nt be PC.

**Arreo** · 08-03-10, 09:02 PM

Yeah, but in this case race isn't as large of a factor as the article makes it sound.

If you don't have easy access to a swimming pool then QED you don't learn how to swim. More affluent people have greater access to pools then poor people.

When I was young my well off parents and the parents of my well-to-do friends all brought us to swimming lessons. It was... I dunno, just what you did if you had young children amongst the people who I grew up friends with. And swimming lessons aren't cheap ($35-95 for an 8 lesson course here in Madison) so only people with disposable income are going to pay for them.