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    Voting for McCain is one of the strongest correlates to gun deaths.

    This isn't extremely scientific, but it's pretty interesting.
    The Geography of Gun Deaths - Richard Florida - National - The Atlantic

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    Who was it who pointed out the 20 top logical fallacies to me?

    This looks like confusion of association with causation. Doesn't it?

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    Interesting, but you're right, without real scientific 'meat' and therefore really lacking the "punch" I am sure the author was looking for.

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    The only point ultimately made in this article is that people in more developed, law-abiding communities are less likely to shoot people. Duh.

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    I found this interesting as well.

    Amnesty program takes aim at UK's ‘knife culture'
    Rash of fatal stabbings prompts crackdown, calls for tougher laws Knife vs. firearm homicide in UK & US

    Whats next then tougher laws on sticks,spoons,high heels, oh! oh! umbrellas those are deadly mofo's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consultant View Post
    Who was it who pointed out the 20 top logical fallacies to me?

    This looks like confusion of association with causation. Doesn't it?
    No, it's you who's confusing correlation with causation. I didn't say "causation," I said "correlation," and the article is careful to point out that correlation != causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alundil View Post
    Interesting, but you're right, without real scientific 'meat' and therefore really lacking the "punch" I am sure the author was looking for.
    I think that the McCain thing was just a joke - this article compares death by guns to geographic regions, and the "red" states tend to have higher rates of gun death. I, personally, find the negative correlates more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deputyfestus View Post
    I found this interesting as well.

    Amnesty program takes aim at UK's ‘knife culture'
    Rash of fatal stabbings prompts crackdown, calls for tougher laws Knife vs. firearm homicide in UK & US

    Whats next then tougher laws on sticks,spoons,high heels, oh! oh! umbrellas those are deadly mofo's.




    From your article (and some simple math):
    Knife murder rates:
    US 7.7 per million
    UK 4.35 per million

    So what was your point? That the lack of gun murders in the UK drives up the relative portions of non-handgun murders?

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    I asked the question...I made no claims one way or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedTribe View Post
    No, it's you who's confusing correlation with causation. I didn't say "causation," I said "correlation," and the article is careful to point out that correlation != causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consultant View Post
    I asked the question...I made no claims one way or another.
    You're right, Glenn, I'm sorry. To answer your question then, no.

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