Thread: One Small Victory

Originally Posted by AetheLove

Maybe that's true, but I can't figure out what that has to do with anything in this thread.

I suppose it could be true that Facebook has been a subtle stalking horse for an insidious right-wing agenda from the very beginning. It seems much more likely to me that they're so busy mining data and building commerce-hooks into the site that they're barely able to keep up with the constant process of revising and incrementally improving all the half-assery and ad-hoc-ery that has plagued them from the very beginning. Also, they've had venture capital for a while - which means that if three years ago an engineer went to add Civil Union and Domestic Partnership to the drop-down then they were most likely prevented from changing anything until The Money had made a determination that the timing was good, the wording was correct, and that only the appropriate boats would be rocked.

There is plenty of actual, real, homophobia in the world. Some of it is insidious. If you are in charge of any actual, real, resources that can be used to fight bigotry, then please spend them wisely.

... unless you were joking, in which case; "Ha! Good one."

Cheers,


AetheLove

I don't think anyone's talking about fighting facebook here.

Originally Posted by dex71

Me too. Whenever I buy a vehicle, either the dealer sticker comes off, or they take $1000 off the price....their choice. I've never had a dealer sticker yet.

And I also think political bumper stickers are lame. I could care less who the idiot next to me in traffic voted for, or what cause they are championing.

Would it be wrong to say bumper stickers are gay? The only stickers you will find on my trucks is one marine corps sticker on the rear window of each and my car has a marine corps sticker along with the stickers for the mods done to it also all on the rear window. I have to take those off and repaint the car because i cant get anyone to race me anymore. Where a 10 second honda when you need one.

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

I don't think anyone's talking about fighting facebook here.

Sorry, my mistake.

I think what happened was that I read the first post (which was about Facebook), and then I read the second post in which you mentioned a right-wing tilt (which seemed like a non-sequitur to me, but I didn't respond), and then I read the third post (which seemed non-committal), and then I read the fourth post (where deathgod lol'd your right-wing comment), and then I read the fifth post, and then I read the sixth post where you talk about homosexuality as a political issue, and then I responded.

You're the one who put "Facebook" and "right-wing tilt" in a sentence, you're the one who first brought up homosexuality, I'm the one who is totally not getting it.

Seriously. What's going on?

Cheers,


AetheLove

Originally Posted by AetheLove

Sorry, my mistake.

I think what happened was that I read the first post (which was about Facebook), and then I read the second post in which you mentioned a right-wing tilt (which seemed like a non-sequitur to me, but I didn't respond), and then I read the third post (which seemed non-committal), and then I read the fourth post (where deathgod lol'd your right-wing comment), and then I read the fifth post, and then I read the sixth post where you talk about homosexuality as a political issue, and then I responded.

You're the one who put "Facebook" and "right-wing tilt" in a sentence, you're the one who first brought up homosexuality, I'm the one who is totally not getting it.

Seriously. What's going on?

Cheers,


AetheLove

Well, I'm not talking about fighting anything. I was a little surprised that facebook, which was originally designed for and by young, educated people, wouldn't have a more progressive view (this was before it was pointed out that the status "married" could be applied to same-sex marriages). Maybe I should have said "conservative" instead of "right-wing."

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Well, I'm not talking about fighting anything. I was a little surprised that facebook, which was originally designed for and by young, educated people, wouldn't have a more progressive view (this was before it was pointed out that the status "married" could be applied to same-sex marriages). Maybe I should have said "conservative" instead of "right-wing."

Ah, ok.

Maybe fighting is the wrong word. I thought what you said was accusatory, and that's sometimes the opening shot of a fight.

I don't think saying "conservative" changes anything. The implication of:

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

I'm surprised that those weren't there already. Has facebook generally had a right-wing tilt before?

... is that their choice of options was politically motivated. I suppose that's possible (and I said so, albeit in a joking manner), but it seems much more likely to me that the political outlook of the coders way-back-when had nothing at all to do with it.

Maybe my mistake is in joining your two sentences together. I suppose it's also possible that the two were completely disconnected - that you expressed surprise at the new options, and then (as a completely separate query) wondered about the political leanings of Facebook.

Either way, it seems that you have at least a little interest in gender issues. I think that's a good thing, but my point was that your passion seems misplaced in this thread.

It's all up-side for me though. I don't care if thread-drift steers us towards gender issues (someone already brought up that Westboro asshole). Seems unlikely we'll get there now. By broad consensus, it's obvious that what most people want to talk about is bumper stickers.

Cheers,


AetheLove

Originally Posted by AetheLove

Ah, ok.

Maybe fighting is the wrong word. I thought what you said was accusatory, and that's sometimes the opening shot of a fight.

I don't think saying "conservative" changes anything. The implication of:




... is that their choice of options was politically motivated. I suppose that's possible (and I said so, albeit in a joking manner), but it seems much more likely to me that the political outlook of the coders way-back-when had nothing at all to do with it.

Maybe my mistake is in joining your two sentences together. I suppose it's also possible that the two were completely disconnected - that you expressed surprise at the new options, and then (as a completely separate query) wondered about the political leanings of Facebook.

Either way, it seems that you have at least a little interest in gender issues. I think that's a good thing, but my point was that your passion seems misplaced in this thread.

It's all up-side for me though. I don't care if thread-drift steers us towards gender issues (someone already brought up that Westboro asshole). Seems unlikely we'll get there now. By broad consensus, it's obvious that what most people want to talk about is bumper stickers.

Cheers,


AetheLove

I honestly wasn't starting a fight, I was stating shock at the lack of a more progressive attitude from the designers of Facebook.

Originally Posted by dex71

Oh boy......Is this even worth responding?

OK.....I'll bite. I've never seen one. But I have seen plenty of rainbows, and parades, and protests, and marches. And again....good on 'em.

I live in a very conservative section of California, and there are a ton of them around here.