Thread: Michele Bachmann exposes $105 billion in hidden Obamacare funding

Jeezus christ thats some huge text. It would be a pain to read it, but if its your job thats what you do. You dont just vote cause someone summarizes in a paragraph a life changing document. Depressing how lazy our politicians are when they arnt campaigning.

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Langrad, I can't even get the re-re's at my taco bell to get my order correct, you think our politicians are any different?

Well then here's a suggestion, tell Indiana to quit putting "re-re's" into congressional office...... While you're at it, pass the message along to Minnesota to quit electing batshit-crazy bitches like Bachmann.

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

I actually agree with you that 72 hours is too short. Not too short to read, but more time would have been appropriate for such an important bill. But, the idea that this funding was "secret" is just more dishonest mudslinging from the woman who spouted this:
"Page 92 of the House health care bill "says specifically that people can't purchase private health insurance after a date certain."

and this
"ACORN will be a paid partner with the Census Bureau and "they will be in charge of going door-to-door and collecting data from the American public."

...and this
"In the 1970s, "the swine flu broke out . . . under another Democrat, President Jimmy Carter.""

Some people will say anything to push their agendas.

I can agree it is possible to read itin 72 hours but with everything reffering to something else you need more time to understand the whole thing. I also agree if its in the bill its not hidden.

I saw where they said the bill was made public for 72 hours. Doesn't "public" mean open to EVERYONE like you and I?

Does it say anywhere that the congress only had 72 hours? Also these things go thru committees and panels where they are discussed for months before coming to a vote. Congressmen know what is coming down the pike before it actually hits the floor. maybe not every single word but a very good jump on it ahead of time.

This is a lady trying to use lies or lack of knowledge of the truth to further her political agenda

Originally Posted by Langrad

You dont just vote cause someone summarizes in a paragraph a life changing document.

Sure you do.

Not all the time, but sometimes.

There are 435 members in the House. ALL of them want to pass legislation. I hear that the executive branch sometimes sends suggestions their way too (heh).

All 435 of them are hounded by industry and commercial interests who also want to pass legislation. More and more, these johns... I mean "constituents"... are writing the proposed legislation themselves, wrapping it up with a bow, and sending it along with a box of chocolates to the Rep. they bought for the night.

It might even be the case, rarely, that actual voters get involved too. Like, for example, an entire town sending a letter to their Rep's office saying something like "So, it seems that huge pulp and paper company that declared bankruptcy while owing the town $50 million in taxes has been off-shoring their profits for the last 30 years and we can't touch the $200 billion they have in their Icelandic accounts. We know it's unlikely you can help us there, but we just discovered that they've been pumping dioxins into a make-shift lagoon that's been leaking into our aquifer for at least 20 years and that's why we have the highest rates of birth defects and kidney disease in the state. So, while we're spending our unemployment checks on bottled water, could you maybe get us added as a Superfund site?"

Fucking constituents. What a bunch of whiners.

Anyway, I'd guess that there is way more legislation in the pipe than any one Rep could personally keep up with, and that it would be irresponsible to try.

That's why the House has committees, and why congressmen have staff. It's also why there's a CBO (who, by the way, work their asses off and frequently tell Congress exactly what it doesn't want to hear).

So, for legislation that she doesn't personally have a stake in, I can easily imagine that a congresscritter would vote based on a memo from a staffer.

Much more likely than that is that the Whip calls their office and says "I know you don't care much about bill Z, so don't mess me around. Vote Yea on Z or everything you care about will die in committee." Now we don't even need a memo. :)

As for the Bachmann video - GTFO. The only thing that video exposes is how craven she is - like we didn't already know.

I won't say that sometimes the minority doesn't get an early look at politically volatile pieces of legislation (this is politics, and they play in the major leagues) but her "appeal" seems disingenuous at best. The entire congressional minority (more than 200 of them) and the CBO missed $105 Billion? If it's true, the only conclusion is that she and her colleagues are incompetent.

But I'm guessing something different.

Cheers,


AetheLove

5 Billion in 2011 and 100 billion over the next 8 years will sink us.

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

5 Billion in 2011 and 100 billion over the next 8 years will sink us.

No it won't.