Army Pfc. Bradley Manning

**deathgodusmc** · 03-16-11, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

But why would they keep him under those conditions? It's obviously a form of torture. To treat an un-convicted person like this seems wrong to me. If he were a civilian, they wouldn't be able to do that. Third world country shit is what that is and it's nothing to be proud of.

He started in those conditions under suicide watch and remains there because of what blake already stated. Even if suicide wasn't a concern he would still be in solitary. Your confusing civil and military justice. In the civilian world you are given the benifit of the doubt and released. In the military the may release you to you barracks under watch or something of that nature but his charges are serious so he remains in a place where he can not jump the fence so to speak. Thats not third world its what he agreed to before he signed his contract.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-16-11, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

This is a blight on our military. They could very easily keep him isolated w/o having to torture him. We're no different than those we claim to be against.

What torture do you think is happening to him?

**triggerhappy2005** · 03-16-11, 05:26 PM

Read the first post to this thread.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-16-11, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Not at all. No one has come forward with any proof that that any informants or military personal were harmed b/c of this. Anyone can make a baseless charge like the pentagon did. It doesn't make it true. And if someone had been harmed you can bet your ass it would have been reported.

As far as the military exercise thing goes, more vague shit. He downloaded it, yes or no? Did he pass it around, yes or no? Did it have any useful information that our enemies could use, yes or no?

And lastly, I'm not the one being lazy. You made the baseless, vague allegation and wouldn't back it up with cold, hard proof. It's on you bro.

This is nothing more then you dont want to look and if anyone gave it to you all you would do is try to pick it apart. In the end he is charged with it and the must have proof in order to take it to court as a charge and no you, i, or anyone else has to see the documents to say it real. That will be those sitting in the court room making that call. Leaked or not the material is still classified and thus will be hard if possible to find any documents supporting the charge.

**deathgodusmc** · 03-16-11, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Read the first post to this thread.

I did and read the articles as well as several other that i didn't post in the thread i started. So what in your mind is he being tortured with?

**triggerhappy2005** · 03-19-11, 09:23 AM

Not all secrets are worth keeping.

Pentagon Papers leaker: 'I was Bradley Manning' - CNN.com

"I was willing to go to prison," Ellsberg says. "I never thought, for the rest of my life, I would ever hear anyone willing to do that, to risk their life, so that horrible, awful secrets could be known. Then I read those logs and learned Bradley was willing to go to prison. I can't tell you how much that affected me."

**Cojiro** · 03-19-11, 09:42 AM

hilary mustve ordered innocent souls for lunch

**naerok** · 03-19-11, 09:45 AM

He is being charged under the UCMJ, basicly military has its own set of laws and how they do things. this is not the civilian world where ur under 1 set of laws / rules.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 03-19-11, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cojiro

hilary mustve ordered innocent souls for lunch

Keep Hillary hungry, shut down an abortion clinic.....

**CivilWars** · 03-20-11, 12:14 PM

So Triger, do you think nothing should happen to him since it can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that lives were put in danger by the leaking of the information?